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#1 zombiegleemax Dec 22, 2004 0:57:00	I will have three copies of this sucker by the end of month four, but I'm still divided on what to do with them. I think I'll mount my first four sections together and create one gigantic wall map, but the other two copies have got me wondering just what to do. Has any tried laminating these things? I've heard lamination can be hit and miss, and I'd hate to waste a copy on bad lamination, so I'm not sure if that's the best route to go. Thoughts?
#2 zombiegleemax Dec 22, 2004 3:46:44	May I ask of which big map do you speak?
#3 scoti_garbidis Dec 22, 2004 7:24:09	I plan on drooling over mine for about a month per map, 4 months total.... then I am gonna make some black and white copies of areas I plan to use in my current campaign. Then i intend to make a giant wall map but want to find a better way to protect the maps... lamination has never been a good experience for me. I have my LGG map in a large frame under plastic on the wall of my den. Would like to do the same with the 4 maps but will probably have to do that with all four maps seperated..... BTW, does anybody know if any plans to release a greyhawk book detailing all the places on the map is forseen in the future? or do i need to start buying and downloading stuff to get my info?
#4 simpi Dec 22, 2004 7:55:46	BTW, does anybody know if any plans to release a greyhawk book detailing all the places on the map is forseen in the future? or do i need to start buying and downloading stuff to get my info? If you are member of an RPGA, you still have time (until 26.12) to get copies of Living Greyhawk modules 'Folly' & 'Sepulcher of the Wizard King' which detail map locations 'Folly' & 'Tomb of Yagrax Hands'. S.H
#5 mortellan Dec 22, 2004 10:09:55	BTW, does anybody know if any plans to release a greyhawk book detailing all the places on the map is forseen in the future? or do i need to start buying and downloading stuff to get my info? That would be a negative. However like Simpi demonstrates, GH is like a scavenger hunt and the big map(from Dungeon 118, Harvester) is now your list. ;)
#6 valharic Dec 22, 2004 10:56:32	May I ask of which big map do you speak? Dungeon magazine is releasing a 4 part poster map of the Flaness. It quite detailed and shows all locations from all the GW sources. I believe it stated with Dungeon #118 goes till #121. Issue #118 seems to be quite hard to get at this point.
#7 Elendur Dec 22, 2004 12:13:24	My plan: Once the party makes it through all the classic greyhawk modules I have planned, I'm going to spread all for parts on the table and say: "So where to?"
#8 zombiegleemax Dec 22, 2004 12:30:03	May I ask of which big map do you speak? Ugh, if you don't have #118 by now, chances are; you never will. Greyhawkians have been talking about it for months! Need to get online more ;)
#9 zombiegleemax Dec 22, 2004 13:32:00	Dungeon magazine is releasing a 4 part poster map of the Flaness. It quite detailed and shows all locations from all the GW sources. I believe it stated with Dungeon #118 goes till #121. Issue #118 seems to be quite hard to get at this point. At my local game store they had 10 or 15 copies of Dungeon #118 yesterday.
#10 omote Dec 22, 2004 13:36:15	My plans? Wll since I'm picking up 3-4 issues of each Dungeon mag, 1 copy of the map will be laminated and all the sections put together to form one gigantic map. That map will be put up on the wall of our gaming room for all to see. Another copy will get put into the mix for general gaming use. When we need a map, pull it out and go from there. The other 2 issues will be put aside on my "grehawk" shelf. So that in 100 years I can sell it for $10.00! :D, well maybe a little more... ...................................Omote FPQ
#11 grodog Dec 24, 2004 15:58:22	My father-in-law runs a publishing business, and I'm going to laminate a copy of the Dungeon 118 map while we're here in Wichita for the holidays. I'll let you guys know how it goes---we'll probably do it in the next day or three.
#12 zombiegleemax Dec 26, 2004 12:19:46	Mine was laminated shortly after I got it. I've slowly been getting all my maps laminated (I've got about a dozen of the most used ones done) and have never had any trouble. I've had Kinkos do the work in the past and the results have always been good. I think it cost $5-7 to have them do the last map. Over the holiday I was thinking of compiling a list of references to locations on the map. Most could simply reference the LGG. However, I was trying to recall where Fountainspring was referenced and wasn't sure (I think it was in one of the first two Gord novels). Anyone interested in helping? Brad.
#13 Mortepierre Dec 26, 2004 13:44:10	Three words: Jason Zavoda index. Won't be much use for LG scenarii's locations but for the rest, it's the best.
#14 zombiegleemax Dec 28, 2004 4:55:29	I got mine laminated at a teacher's-supply store called "Education Station." They didn't have any problems with it fitting in their machine. It only cost about $2.50 and it looks great!
#15 omote Dec 28, 2004 9:35:23	Laminating the GH map really helps bring out the colors. The laminating process deepens the colors. The greens really contrast heavily against the blue water of the map. Laminating the map really makes it look even better if you are so inclined. .................................Omote FPQ
#16 Elendur Dec 28, 2004 10:55:50	Are you laminating it in one big sheet or with folds like a travel map? Can they do that?
#17 zombiegleemax Dec 28, 2004 12:08:02	Are you laminating it in one big sheet or with folds like a travel map? Can they do that? I had it laminated as a poster. The lamination you're thinking of is much heavier than what I had done, nor have I ever seen such a process available to the public.
#18 grodog Dec 28, 2004 23:05:58	My father-in-law laminated the maps while my wife and I were visiting friends up in Kansas City the past two days. The laminate that he used is pretty light in weight, so I probably could still use the folds, though I'm probably just going to roll them. No damage to the maps, and I'll have to wait to get back home to see if the process deepened the colors or not per Omote's comments. For those who had the maps laminated professionally, did any of the areas near the folds get wrinkled slightly in the laminating process, so that the laminated fold actually makes a very slim line along the fold of the map not visible?
#19 Amaril Jan 21, 2005 9:05:18	I'd like to see some more comments on the outcome of laminating the maps. I'm considering it, but I only have one copy of the map. I'm not sure if I want to risk it for something that's only mediocre in outcome. I hope Paizo releases a high-res electronic copy that we can have professionally priinted. I'd be willing to pay for such a file. If they sold all four maps as one poster rolled up in a tube, I'd pay for that, too. It would be much easier to frame. :D
#20 omote Jan 21, 2005 9:58:01	Here are some tips if you are taking the map to a local printer to get laminated) 1) Try to find a competent person who looks like they know how to run a laminating machine... this part may be difficult, but plead with them that this is a vary rare copy and that it must be laminated COREECT the first time. 2) If need be, tell the person laminating it to make sure the machine is PRE-HEATED. Frequently when they turn on the machine and start laminating right away, the plastic will not laminate correctly because the mahcine is not hot enough. The Dungeon map is VERY THIN paper. If the machine is too hot, then the paper will scorch, burn and curl. Make sure the person doens't make the machine too hot. 3) Before laminating the map, open it up and lay it out. Try to get the little creases and corner folds as flat as possible before laminating. When the paper is not completley flat when being laminated, it tends to form "bubbles" where creases and corner folds were. 4) When the person is laminating the map, ask them if they will go slowly and hand-feed the map into the laminating machine. Some machines all you have to do is insert one end, and leave the pre-laminated product there for the machine to auto-feed through. Auto-feeders have the tendancy to slip causing the map to be off center. When off center you run the risk of laminating most of the map, while the crooked edge of the map misses the laminating strip and doesn't get laminated. You can't laminate over laminate to correct this problem - don't even try!!! Those are the best tips I can give you for having your map laminated. The most important is to find a qualified person and shower them with praises and let them know how important it is for this map to be laminated correctly. Hope that helps. .............................................Omote FPQ
#21 Amaril Jan 21, 2005 10:07:35	Actualy, nevermind. I think I'll keep it as is. You're explanation has only frightened the bejeezus out of me in regards to laminating the maps. I think I'll just keep them as is.
#22 omote Jan 21, 2005 11:24:26	EEK! Thosw are all worst case senarios! I state all of that because I've had a project or two ruined by faulty laminating. THE PROS: Laminating the new WoG maps really bring out the colors. When you laminate them, the colors and hues deepen, and form more of a "warm" color to the overall project. When laminated the deep blues of the water, really stick out and contrast against the light green of the land masses. I would say that if you plan to use the map extensively, take the risk and laminate it. You know how those fold marks will rip, tear and disintigrate over the years of continual use. Plus, laminating significantly lengthens tjhe ligfe of the map (although maps it more difficult to store away). Overall I like the map much better laminated for the reasons I stated above. It just want everybody who plans to laminate the map to have all of the information. I can't tell you how much it irks me when a laminating project doesn't get done right. I'm sorry if I scared you... ...............................Omote FPQ
#23 Amaril Jan 21, 2005 11:48:59	I'm hoping that they'll just release high resolution versions of the maps as JPGs or PNGs so that I can print them myself. WotC did this with the map of Khorvaire for Eberron, so I'll keep my hopes up.
#24 pauln6 Jan 25, 2005 7:24:38	I'm going to collect all 4 pieces of the map and then get some clear stickers. I'm then going to list all the missing locations, print them onto the stickers in identical tyepface and add them to the map wherever there is room! I will then stick all the pieces together and mount it on the wall. Was going for lamination, but u guys have scared me off that idea. I'm already in the process of stitching together my own gazeteer detailing the various locations from official and unofficial material - and I don't recommend it as a hobby!! I don't think I've fully completed a single region in four years. LGG updates make it an impossibility. If I ever finish, I can put everything in a series of ringbinders and update periodically as new stuff comes out. I'll have my complete map and my complete gazeteer. Groovy :D I'm not an RPGA member - any way to but copies of Folly and Sepulchre of the Wizard King second hand?