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#1 zombiegleemax Jan 17, 2005 8:50:27	I recently rented "The Blood of Heroes" with Rutger Hauer after remembering it from years ago, and I gotta say, it had Dark Sun written all over it. The setting, characters, and especiallt the game were all good examples of a possible campaign. I have been working on d20 rules for become "Juggers". Anyone else see this movie? If interested I rented it at walmart.com dvd rentals. I've never actually seen it on dvd anywhere, or vhs for that matter.
#2 dawnstealer Jan 17, 2005 11:33:58	I was one of the "lucky few" who saw it in theaters (I was dragged by a group of friends from high school). Yikes, that movie was bad. It had hints of Dark Sun, but I'd stick with Gladiator, Lawrence of Arabia, Conan the Barbarian, Stargate (for clothing, setting, etc - not aliens, and the movie, not the show), Osama (which is a great movie anyway - set in Afganistan), and a few others in that other thread (did it make it over with the new version?).
#3 zombiegleemax Jan 17, 2005 11:41:07	In a VERY abstract way, Dune. I included duneworms and spice in my Athas world because of the books and movies, and have tribes of Fremen soulknives inhabiting the deep wastes, complete with a clairsentient-focused Psychic Warrior named Muad'dib as their leader
#4 zombiegleemax Jan 17, 2005 14:38:19	Pitch Black. The environment. The characters and the general theme to the movie. To a lesser extent Chronicles of Riddick. Dark Fury, not at all really.
#5 dawnstealer Jan 17, 2005 15:45:15	Dune! Completely forgot about it. Yar, lots of comparisons between the two. "Athas," "Arakis." Both desert planets, both struggling for life, and on, and on. I would not be at all surprised if Dune was the (subconscience?) inspiration for Athas.
#6 zombiegleemax Jan 17, 2005 15:58:45	The Mummy 1 & 2, Scorpion King. ;)
#7 elonarc Jan 17, 2005 16:32:02	The Mummy 1 & 2, Scorpion King. Scorpion King gestern im Fernsehen geschaut? Scorpion King does a good job of depicting a city in Dark Sun IMHO.
#8 zombiegleemax Jan 17, 2005 16:40:10	Leider nur das Ende, ich habe ihn aber seinerzeit im Kino gesehen . Ich find ihn ehrlich gesagt sehr unterhaltsam auch wenn er an die Vorgänger nicht rankommt. Dark City has also a strang Dark sun feeling IMO, maybe because of the Psi powers.
#9 zombiegleemax Jan 17, 2005 17:33:00	Dark City would be a good analogue for Eldaarich. It's a giant maze of a city, the people are under complete and utter contorl of the ruling class. I wouldnt be surprised if Daskinor would experiment on his subjects by moving them around and tweaking with their memories. A husband and wife with a daughter wake up one morning to find their little red-head girl replaced with a dark-haired boy who believes they're his parents. They accept it as the will of Daskinor, afraid to anger him, and play along with it, forgetting about their old daughter and accepting their new son into their life. Later they see their real daughter as a beggar-girl on the street and ignore her, afraid to anger the will of daskinor. Meanwhile the daughter knows no other life than that of a beggar-girl, her memories having been altered (or switched with) to be that of the little boy who replaced her. Eh? Eh eh eh eh?
#10 dawnstealer Jan 17, 2005 18:23:44	According to Brax, Daskinor would pretty much just take the kid, parents' memories be damned. Of course, they better not act like anything's changed.
#11 nytcrawlr Jan 17, 2005 20:45:02	I recently rented "The Blood of Heroes" with Rutger Hauer after remembering it from years ago, and I gotta say, it had Dark Sun written all over it. The setting, characters, and especiallt the game were all good examples of a possible campaign. I have been working on d20 rules for become "Juggers". Anyone else see this movie? If interested I rented it at walmart.com dvd rentals. I've never actually seen it on dvd anywhere, or vhs for that matter. Yep, I love it, awesome movie. I have it on VHS and you should be able to get it on DVD via Amazon. Blood of Heroes
#12 zombiegleemax Jan 17, 2005 21:33:15	Screamers thats a good movie, kinda like the feel of dark sun, after the bombs everything turned into sand, lots of little places trying to find other cities, things that live in the ground and kill you, etc, oh and the main thing, they found a scroll to form an alliance! ;)
#13 Sysane Jan 17, 2005 21:40:03	I have to throw in my two bits and have to say The 13th Warrior had some DS elements as well. Great movie!
#14 dawnstealer Jan 18, 2005 0:38:43	I'm a big fan of Showgirls. When you think about it, all those dancers are like Nibenese templars... :P
#15 nytcrawlr Jan 18, 2005 17:45:57	I'm a big fan of Showgirls. When you think about it, all those dancers are like Nibenese templars... :P That movie didn't have near enough nudity and **** scenes for me, but what can you do.... What a great way for what's her name from Saved by the Bell to ruin her acting career, though I'm sure she's doing porn or something related now just so she can put food on the table, heh. 13th Warrior does rule though. Not sure where the DS elements are though.
#16 eric_anondson Jan 18, 2005 20:27:41	I recently saw an anime movie called The Weathering Continent . I don't know if I can recommend it though. I was decent for someone looking for Dark Sun themes. It is only 50 minutes in length, supposedly takes place millennia ago on a mythic continent in the middle of the Atlantic. The continent once had a thriving civilization, but over-exploitation of resources and climate change turned the continent into a desert waste. The movie starts with the main three characters in the movie stumbling upon some ruins, end up falling through a hole into an underground necropolis. In the necropolis they find what could be easily mistaken for a Dark Sun slave tribe, right down to their outfits. I'll leave it there. Regards, Eric Anondson
#17 nytcrawlr Jan 18, 2005 21:17:06	I recently saw an anime movie called The Weathering Continent Wow, netflix has it. Added to queue.
#18 Sysane Jan 18, 2005 21:27:46	13th Warrior does rule though. Not sure where the DS elements are though. Survival and conflicting cultures. The Vindnorm (or whatever they were called) reminded me of feral halflings (minus their size and bear get-up). Maybe I'm alone on that one.
#19 zombiegleemax Jan 18, 2005 21:31:30	"The Road Warrior" and "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome", Bartertown in particular. Max Rockatansky has to be the ultimate wastelander...
#20 nytcrawlr Jan 18, 2005 21:31:54	Survival and conflicting cultures. I get you there, had to think about it for a minute, heh. The Vindnorm (or whatever they were called) reminded me of feral halflings (minus their size and bear get-up). Maybe I'm alone on that one. Not sure I would go that far, but it's probably one of the closer representations out there.
#21 zombiegleemax Jan 19, 2005 3:39:34	Mad Max The anime Fist of the North Star....... ahem :D
#22 nytcrawlr Jan 19, 2005 13:33:50	The Vindnorm (or whatever they were called) reminded me of feral halflings (minus their size and bear get-up). I think the undead pygmy things from The Mummy Returns are closer of an example of this. Minus the undead factor of course.
#23 Sysane Jan 19, 2005 13:56:50	I think the undead pygmy things from The Mummy Returns are closer of an example of this. Minus the undead factor of course. I think both are good examples. More so the pygmy zombie than the Vindnorm.
#24 zombiegleemax Jan 19, 2005 14:33:20	"The Road Warrior" and "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome", Bartertown in particular. Max Rockatansky has to be the ultimate wastelander... Yeah, Bartertown was cool.
#25 Sysane Jan 20, 2005 7:41:13	As much as I hate to admit it, Star Wars had some DS elements. Tatooine and Mos Eisley could be viewed as Athas-like minus the hi-tech. (I'll catch grief for this) Ewoks were feral halfling like characters.
#26 zombiegleemax Jan 20, 2005 11:39:41	Hey Kamelion- If you see this, we need Athasian Hutts and Rancors!!!!
#27 Sysane Jan 20, 2005 11:57:59	Hey Kamelion- If you see this, we need Athasian Hutts and Rancors!!!! :heehee C'mon! I do have a good point.
#28 dawnstealer Jan 20, 2005 12:15:46	Tatooine? Yes. Ewoks? "Zug! Zug!" Ummmmmm...ehhhhhh...no. Better analogy might be the Brazilian Pigmies in "At Play in the Fields of the Lord," Magua and his band of jolly heart-eaters in "Last of the Mohicans," the Thugee (sp?) cult in "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom." Basically, the halflings of Athas are savage, but they are decended from the most "technically" advanced race on the planet. Their traditions, as indicated in the Prism Pentad, make them noble savages that just happen to eat people in their rituals.
#29 Sysane Jan 20, 2005 12:57:59	Basically, the halflings of Athas are savage, but they are decended from the most "technically" advanced race on the planet. Their traditions, as indicated in the Prism Pentad, make them noble savages that just happen to eat people in their rituals. Bro, Savage forest dwelling cannibal midgets (They did try to baroque Han Solo)? As much as people don't want to admit it there is a correlation there.
#30 nytcrawlr Jan 20, 2005 13:55:24	Bro, Savage forest dwelling cannibal midgets (They did try to baroque Han Solo)? As much as people don't want to admit it there is a correlation there. Very, VERY, small. I wouldn't quite call the Ewoks noble savages, but they are savages, so they have that going for them.
#31 Sysane Jan 20, 2005 14:02:37	Very, VERY, small. I wouldn't quite call the Ewoks noble savages, but they are savages, so they have that going for them. What makes you think their not noble? A cheesey make up job?
#32 nytcrawlr Jan 20, 2005 15:04:58	A cheesey make up job? I wouldn't call the Ewoks makeup job "cheesy". It was actually rather good, but that's not my reason no.
#33 Sysane Jan 20, 2005 15:10:26	I wouldn't call the Ewoks makeup job "cheesy". It was actually rather good, but that's not my reason no. The makeup was so-so. To teddy bearish for my tastes. Anybody willing to fight and die for a new tribe member's (Luke and the gang's) cause that isn't necessary their own comes across as a pretty noble being in my book.
#34 dawnstealer Jan 20, 2005 15:35:54	On to other movies... How about "Lord of the Flies?" Maybe the book more than the movie? Once well-meaning children stranded on alien world devolve into savagery?
#35 zombiegleemax Jan 20, 2005 17:27:57	Sysane,I was totally serious! The Hutts would make great slavers, like they are in the SW universe, and my PCs would probably crap their pants if they ran into a Rancor! (Maybe just call the Tarrasque a Rancor)? Twi'leks like Bib Fortune and Oola would make a cool new race, and the Quarren are just like Mind Flayers! Also, the Gammorrean Guards could be a lost tribe of Athasian Orcs just making their presence known again. Waddya think?
#36 Kamelion Jan 20, 2005 18:37:43	I'd be happy to stat out some Athasian Ewoks... ...just for the pleasure of sending them to the slave pits to die in their droves. Irritating, unconvincing, furry little wastes of space!! I'll take Jar-Jar any day over the teddy bears' picnic. On topic, that Gor movie had a pretty good DS feel (despite the fact that it was so utterly bad). I'll second the Scorpion King, Conan, Dune and Mad Max recommendations. Salute of the Jugger left me very unimpressed, though. It was just silly.
#37 nytcrawlr Jan 20, 2005 19:00:15	Irritating, unconvincing, furry little wastes of space!! I'll take Jar-Jar any day over the teddy bears' picnic. Not sure I would go that far, I'd rather have the Ewoks any day saying "etchawawa" too me constantly than hearing or seeing Jar Jar. Though I still say RotJ would have been better with wookies. Ah well, Lucas sucks. How bout Krull? All kinds of DS elements in there... /me runs
#38 lurking_shadow Jan 23, 2005 11:58:16	Escape from Absalom because of the savagery, the makeshift weapons and some cool Forest action scenes. Planet of the Apes (recent version) for its wonderful scenery, the primal monsters (apes), slavery and the "master race" plot. Gladiator (has already been mentioned erlier) has great arena scenes and is particularly appropriate for Balic. As for Star Wars, I've said it before: Troy Denning designed at least one very influential product for WEG's StarWars RPG before creating DarkSun and wrote one bigNew Jedi Order novel afterwards. In that first produt Denning created backgrounds for many of the major alien races of SW. And the New Jedi Order series was about some nasty alien invaders that employed only biological ships, weapons, armor, etc. and called their scientists "shapers".
#39 methvezem Jan 23, 2005 16:14:39	Here are some movies with elements that could inspire DS moments: Troy: The combat of champions at the beginning of the movie, the city of Troy itself for its fortification. Planet of the Apes (2001): The city and surrounding of the ape's city, could be in the Dead Lands. The Time Machine (2002): The Eloi village on the cliffs for the Rhul-taun. Reign of Fire: The male dragon for the power that Borys certainly must have (minus the wings :P ). Tremors: How do you escape sand worms, even small one in the open desert ;) Soylent Green: Famine in the city-states: not likely anymore. Chronicles of Riddick: The planet of Crematoria for its fire tempests. Ewoks Adventures double features: :D
#40 zombiegleemax Jan 23, 2005 23:43:00	"Lawrence of Arabia" isn't half bad for some inspiration.
#41 murkaf Jan 24, 2005 8:39:56	The scimitar-wielding desert warriors in The Four Feathers have some really cool camouflage...
#42 lurking_shadow Jan 24, 2005 11:40:25	The Time Machine! I'd forgotten about that one. Another movie that reminds me of Athas, and this may sound a little funny, is Waterworld. Reasons: people living under extreme environmental situations, raiders, vast empty expanses and more makeshift stuff. Also it kind of made wonder about the Blue Age.
#43 ascian Jan 30, 2005 19:30:57	Heavy Metal is home to a couple of vignettes which always reminded me of Athas, the Den story in particular. Hidalgo's also a good setting for showing off desert landscapes and survival therein. Shaun of the Dead has nothing to do with Athas, but it's a fantastic movie, so I thought I'd mention it just to round out my contribution.
#44 joboo Feb 19, 2005 20:25:34	I think Vampire hunter-D blood lust had a few moments of Darksun within it. My favorite being the flying mantarays and the Mutant city.
#45 zombiegleemax Feb 25, 2005 2:47:49	I always thought Dune was a huge influence. In a small way (for me at least), there were quite a few parts in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" that had one character left out in the desert to walk across long expanses. It reminds me of the adventure included with the box set. I am sure several other examples exist in other westerns, but that is the one that sticks out in my mind the most.