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#1 zombiegleemax Feb 01, 2005 9:21:58	At the end of the WoS trilogy, Paladine mentions to Gerard that all the companions are now together again and will travel together - but he doesn't mention Laurana, although she's dead. Is there a reason for that - or is it just a mistake?
#2 cam_banks Feb 01, 2005 9:39:33	At the end of the WoS trilogy, Paladine mentions to Gerard that all the companions are now together again and will travel together - but he doesn't mention Laurana, although she's dead. Is there a reason for that - or is it just a mistake? She's not technically one of the Companions, and neither is Gilthanas. At least, that's the way you could see it. The core of the group were those that met at the Inn of the Last Home at the beginning of Chronicles. Cheers, Cam
#3 zombiegleemax Feb 01, 2005 9:43:16	She's not technically one of the Companions... And Tika is? She was at the Inn at the time - but joined them only later on.
#4 cam_banks Feb 01, 2005 10:36:38	And Tika is? She was at the Inn at the time - but joined them only later on. Yes, I think she and Goldmoon and Riverwind count for the purposes of being core. Even though she was delayed. Cheers, Cam
#5 zombiegleemax Feb 01, 2005 15:16:39	Strange. I always thought of Laurana as the central heroine of the Chronicles (together with Raistlin) - that I cannot imagine her missing from the gang. It doesn't trouble me in the case of Gilthanas, by the way. Thanks anyways.
#6 frostdawn Feb 01, 2005 15:16:55	Tika also sort of grew up with the group, and featured in some way or another in several different stories. She was always there when the companions met at the Inn of the Last Home, and knew all of them very well. It makes sense that she would join them when it hit the fan. Laurana came along later as an aside, and no one in the group really knew anything about her except for Tanis. Given she wound up playing a large role as the golden general later, but she was not an old familiar friend to the group from the start. (ie not a companion) Same applies to Gilthanas and Sylvara as Cam mentioned. Riverwind and Goldmoon count since they served as a catalyst for the greatness of the companions.
#7 dragontooth Feb 01, 2005 22:07:21	Yea but I'm sure her soul is put to rest, and hanging out with the rest of the companions. Would like to see another novel with Githanas in it as the main character. "he's not dead yet"
#8 brimstone Feb 01, 2005 23:54:48	Well...some references suggest that her spirit remains in Qualinost still fighting Beryl.
#9 zombiegleemax Feb 02, 2005 1:55:58	I dunno. I think I'll still consider the companions to be all those who are found here: http://home.flash.net/~brenfrow/dl/dl-tales.jpg
#10 jonesy Feb 02, 2005 4:52:10	I thought the Song of the Nine Heroes might help, but interestingly it's even more muddled. It calls Flinf, Tasslehoff, Goldmoon, Riverwind, Kitiara, Sturm, Caramon, Tanis and Raistlin the nine. Yes, that's Kitiara there in the middle. Then it includes Tika, Laurana and Fizban as their companions.
#11 brimstone Feb 02, 2005 5:02:01	Well...to me...when someone says "Companions" or "Innfellows" I see them as the same group of 7 people: Flint, Tas, Tanis, Kit, Caramon, Raistlin, and Sturm. I don't include Tika, Goldmoon, Riverwind, Laurana, or Gilthanas until someone says "Heroes of the Lance." But, that's just me and my own personal semantics.
#12 zombiegleemax Feb 02, 2005 5:34:37	Interesting. My semantic would run as follows: Innfellows: Tanis, Sturm, Kitiara, Caramon, Raistlin, Flint and Tasslehoff. Companions: The Innfellows; minus Kitiara; plus Goldmoon, Riverwind, Tika and Laurana. Heroes of the Lance: The Companions; plus Gilthanas and Silvara. I'm not sure I have any rationale behind this. :D
#13 true_blue Feb 02, 2005 8:22:32	I just consider the "Companions" to be the ones who originally started. That means it includes Goldmoon and Riverwind, but not Tika, Laurana, and Gilthanas. But I do consider those three as Heroes of the Lance. I guess its all just how people want to define them.
#14 darthsylver Feb 03, 2005 16:02:35	I agree with Brimstone. Even though Kitiara was well on her way to becoming a villain before chronicles even starts, it doe snot mean that she is not one of th ecompanions. Hell, Raistlin became even more of a villian then Kitiara ever was and he was one of the companions. To me, "companions" refer sto the group of characters that met in Solace and became a group that had many adventures while growing up, not necesarily as a group all the time, but generally with others of the companions. While Tika was there in solace and knew all these characters, she never went with them on any adventures or even travels, so IMO she is not one of the companions. Now if you want to talk about Heroes of the lance then yes you have the main ones: Tanis, Flint, Sturm, Raistlin, Caramon, Tika, Riverwind, Goldmoon, Laurana and Tasselhoff. These are the characters who played a major role over the course of the war for the side of good, not just once, but multiple times during the course of said war.
#15 thekosta Feb 03, 2005 18:55:08	Here is my take on companions vs. heroes To me the companions are the ones who made the pact to all reunite after 5 years. So my list is Tas, Tanis, Flint, Caramon, Raistlin, Sturm, and Kitiara (remember she did send notice that she wasn't going to make it. At least she still reconised the pact.) The heroes are the rest. Goldmoon, Riverwind, Tika, and Laurana. Supporting cast would then be Gilthanas, Silvara, Theros, Elistan, Gunther, and Fizban. I wrote this than realized just how off topic it was.
#16 zombiegleemax Feb 05, 2005 16:21:04	Well...some references suggest that her spirit remains in Qualinost still fighting Beryl. Spoilery space for Lake of Death * * * * * * * * * * * * * For gaming reasons, I like the idea of Laurana being one of the elves whose spirit is bound to the Lake of Death. In fact, I'd almost find it hard to imagine her not given her physical proximity to Beryl at the time of their deaths.
#17 daedavias_dup Feb 05, 2005 17:15:23	For gaming reasons, I like the idea of Laurana being one of the elves whose spirit is bound to the Lake of Death. In fact, I'd almost find it hard to imagine her not given her physical proximity to Beryl at the time of their deaths. Except that Tasslehoff sees her spirit in War of Souls, and it isn't in Qualinost. So I doubt that she is stuck in the Lake.
#18 zombiegleemax Feb 05, 2005 17:38:50	Except that Tasslehoff sees her spirit in War of Souls, and it isn't in Qualinost. So I doubt that she is stuck in the Lake. I'd be surprised if officially she was stuck in the Lake. I was merely saying that it's a scenario I find interesting and would likely use in my own game that I'm running should events take the PCs there.
#19 zombiegleemax Feb 06, 2005 10:42:02	For gaming reasons, I like the idea of Laurana being one of the elves whose spirit is bound to the Lake of Death. In fact, I'd almost find it hard to imagine her not given her physical proximity to Beryl at the time of their deaths. This is something I don't know about. What elves are bound to the lake and why? And is Beryl still there?
#20 loreseeker Feb 06, 2005 16:34:18	I wouldn't like Laurana seeing stuck in that lake. Even though she was "there" at the time Beryl got her just desserts, she needn't be affected by the magic that affected ... others who also "were there". She used a certain artifact ... which might have protected her from the magic that bound others to the lake in undeath.
#21 zombiegleemax Feb 07, 2005 14:04:13	The other possibility of course is that she is not dead. As deaths go, hers was an obscure one. Assumed but not witnessed.
#22 zombiegleemax Feb 10, 2005 7:07:55	The other possibility of course is that she is not dead. Not to mention the fact that deaths are never such a decisive thing in DL: The character may die, but this would definitely won't prevent him/her from popping up later on (through time-travelling devices, by being caught between the worlds, or just by being Raistlin).