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#1Steel_RabbitFeb 10, 2005 0:19:02 | Where can I find information about Greyhawks' Drow population, empires, etc. Thanks in advance. |
#2avfanaticFeb 10, 2005 2:52:49 | The Vault of the Drow (a huge drow complex under the Hellfurnaces) was updated in Dragon #298, other than that I don't know. |
#3zombiegleemaxFeb 10, 2005 2:55:17 | Where can I find information about Greyhawks' Drow population, empires, etc. Thanks in advance. Your best source of informtion would be the D series modules. Probably nowhere near the detail you might be looking for, but the Drow are not a very visable force in the regular Greyhawk campaign. I was trying to track their references in published material but this list is far from complete. Drow {Black Elf}{Dark Elf}[MON] A1-4 - 89,122 A2 - 35 A4 - 22 AOE - 33,92-94,96-98,189-193 ATG - 2,26,27,29,31,33-42,73,93 CED - 12,53,56,57,149,150,151 COG:C# - 3,24 COG:FFF - 17,52,53 COG:GOTF - 87 COLTM - 17,33 D1 D1-2 D2 D3 DOD - 13,14,15,69,70,71,75,85,88,97,102,103,105,106,109 ,110,111,113,116,115,121,124,125,126,127,129,131,132,137 ,138,139,143,152,157,160,161,163,165,175,183,185,187 ,193,206,209,211,212,213,227,228,230,233,238,239,242,244 ,245,246,254,320,322,331,373,420 DRG#209 - 13 DRG#225 - 50 DRG#230 - 10,15 DRG#236 - 13 DRG#241 - 42,44,45,46,75,76,95 DRG#294 - 96 DRG#AN4 - 70 DUN#70 - 49,50,51,54,57,59,60,61,62,69,78 FTAA - 29,56 G123 - 16,17,18,20,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30 GA - 43,44,750 GDQ - 2,3,4,8,15,35,37,39,40,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,50,52 53,55,56,57,60,61,62,63,65,68,69,70,71,73,74,75,76 77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93 ,103,105,114,115,121,125,127 IVID LGG - 17,88,127,128,143 MMII - 42,60 PGTG - 5,24,39 POLY#30 - 6,7 RT1-4 - 4,5,6,30,41,126,127 RWPM - 40,41 S4B2 - 10,12 SC - 2,7,8,10,11,15,19 SLV - 2,36,48,109,121,122 SOD - 17,27,84-88,90,92,94,134,136,140,180,187,190,195,196 198,200,207,211,213,215,226,230,232,233,235-237,239-243 246,248-254,256-258,263,265,266,268-271,273,280-285,288, 292,296,300,314,319-321,323,325,343,345-349,351-353,355, 357,358,360,361,368,369,371-373,381,382,384,387 T1-4 - 29 TAB - 2,38,70,79,87 TD - 31-33,40-44 TSB - 25 UA - 10,11 WG12 - 2,8,36 WGA3 - 47,59,60 WGA4 - 15,20,29,50 WGM1 - 3,25 WGQ1 - 25 WGR1 - 33 WGR2 - 75 WGR3 - 39 WGR5 - 6,16,17,24,25,64,84,91,92 WGR6 - IC,49 WOGG - 14,27,30,53 There was some Greyhawk Drow information in later Dragon magazines including a detail of the city Erelhei-Cinlu in Dragon #300 Erelhei-Cinlu (Drow)(Pop 27,000)[TWN] SEE ALSO Vault of the Drow A4 - 20 D3 - 8,12,15,16,18,20 DG - 78,79,80,81,82,83 DRG#225 - 50 DRG#241 - 75 DRG#298 - 73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86, DRG#300 - 90,91,92,93 DRG#AN4 - 70 DUN#70 - 49,54,71 DUN#72 - 84 GDQ - 3,4,73,77,81,82,88,90 LGG - 18 POLY#113 - 25 WGR5 - 16,17 There is probably a good deal of fan material available about them, but you are safe in creating, borrowing or transplanting any information at all about the Drow since there is so little in exact detail published. |
#4avfanaticFeb 10, 2005 3:03:55 | There was some Greyhawk Drow information in later Dragon magazines including a detail of the city Erelhei-Cinlu in Dragon #300 300 has some drow detailed in "Denizens of Darkness" p90-94, 298 is the redone Erelhei-Cinlu p.72-87 |
#5i-m_batman_dupFeb 10, 2005 5:40:32 | Where can I find information about Greyhawks' Drow population, empires, etc. Thanks in advance. jasonzavoda seems to have nailed most of the sources quite handily. The only thing I'd add is a quick mission statement I use in my campaigns: "Drow live hidden under the ground but surface everywhere to meddle in everything." ;) |
#6AmarilFeb 10, 2005 6:42:30 | Drow have also resurfaced in Dungeon #119: Wrath of the Abyss with a loose follow-up tie-in to the article in Dragon #298. |
#7SysaneFeb 10, 2005 7:35:44 | The 2e Planescape adventure "Dead Gods" also revisits the Vault of The Drow. Plus, it details the return of one of the old school demon lords long thought dead. |
#8ElendurFeb 10, 2005 10:22:55 | In your listing, what is DOD and SOD? |
#9thanaelFeb 10, 2005 10:37:01 | Gord the Rogue Novels: Sea of Death and Dance of Demons |
#10Steel_RabbitFeb 10, 2005 15:20:02 | ... Wow, jasonzavoda, I bow to your knowledge in Greyhawk, and I thank you for the time it must have took you to do that index. Thanks a bunch guys, I'll have to run around now and look for those resources, I have the latest issues of Dragon and Dungeon so I'll look there to start. |
#11AmarilFeb 10, 2005 15:37:12 | Oh, I forgot to mention, tere's a drow adventure called the Harrowing in Dungeon #84. The author of Wrath of the Abyss recommends it as a follow-up adventure. |
#12grodogFeb 10, 2005 21:38:54 | Don't forget Russell Bird's excellent version of Erelhei Cinlu in OJ #14 @ http://www.canonfire.com/htmlnew/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=126 There used to be a TOC for it, but I don't see that on CF! now.... |
#13qstorFeb 11, 2005 10:02:20 | There's a list of other non canon drow cities on Canonfire that I liked too. I'm not sure of the author. One of which is under the Pomarj which is kinda cool for a campaign idea, the drow aiding Mak or the Slavers. Mike |
#14i-m_batman_dupFeb 13, 2005 0:50:34 | ...One of which is under the Pomarj which is kinda cool for a campaign idea, the drow aiding Mak or the Slavers. Hey, that makes sense. After all, don't forget Edralve from A4 In the Dungeons of the Slave Lords--if Turrosh Mak really is Theg Narlot, he already had experience dealing with the drow. |
#15zombiegleemaxFeb 13, 2005 16:50:09 | Hey, that makes sense. After all, don't forget Edralve from A4 In the Dungeons of the Slave Lords--if Turrosh Mak really is Theg Narlot, he already had experience dealing with the drow. There was also the tunnel into the Underoerth in module A2. It was a trading station for drow merchants and leads deeper in the oerth. A drow merchant and drow guards were stationed there. |
#16zombiegleemaxFeb 14, 2005 1:12:39 | I may have not looked close enough, but there was a 3 story arc, Istivin: City of Shadows in Dungeon 117-119. |
#17AmarilFeb 14, 2005 8:03:24 | I may have not looked close enough, but there was a 3 story arc, Istivin: City of Shadows in Dungeon 117-119. Yes, the third part is titled Wrath of the Abyss, as I mentioned above. |
#18zombiegleemaxFeb 14, 2005 8:25:14 | They've also been appearing in some of the Living Greyhawk material, such as Assault on the Vault, which remain largely faithful to the 1st and 2nd ed series. I personally am fond of the Drow of the Underdark sourcebook. Arguably out of date now, but probably one of the best sourcebooks I've ever seen. |
#19zombiegleemaxFeb 14, 2005 11:00:41 | They've also been appearing in some of the Living Greyhawk material, such as Assault on the Vault, which remain largely faithful to the 1st and 2nd ed series. I did like the concept of a more 3 dimensional approach to underoerth buildings. Defenses need to bee spherical protecting approaches from all sides, above and below. |
#20zombiegleemaxFeb 14, 2005 13:02:52 | I heard Mike Vick plays a drow in Argon's campaign, hehe. |
#21cragFeb 14, 2005 20:22:36 | Have too agree with questor, Canonfire has several excellent articles on the drow especially the one outlining the various "drow vaults" found within the flanaess has been extermely helpful. Btw Abysslin, followed your sig linked and saw your map, well done but I noticed two errors: 1) 2 Jalpa, the southern one should be Torrich 2) No city of Rel Deven? |
#22ArgonFeb 14, 2005 22:48:38 | What are these Drow you speak of. I hear someone by the name of R.A. Salvatore talking about these myths. Then there's this guy in my campaign keeps saying his PC is one of them. I don't know who they are and I don't what to know. Apparently This Guy called Gygax created a game world with them then this guy R.A. Salvatore beat a bunch of fanboys over the head with them. Then I read a very intelligent individual eridicated them from a world Gygax created. But I still don't know who or what they are! |
#23AmarilFeb 15, 2005 6:20:39 | What are these Drow you speak of. I hear someone by the name of R.A. Salvatore talking about these myths. Then there's this guy in my campaign keeps saying his PC is one of them. I don't know who they are and I don't what to know. Apparently This Guy called Gygax created a game world with them then this guy R.A. Salvatore beat a bunch of fanboys over the head with them. Then I read a very intelligent individual eridicated them from a world Gygax created. I don't think this is what the original poster was looking for. Additionally, FR Drow and GH Drow are very different, and most Drow fanboys like FR Drow. I think GH Drow are handled with much more control. Leave the R.A. Salvatore soapbox for the FR forums. |
#24zombiegleemaxFeb 16, 2005 11:00:58 | Btw Abysslin, followed your sig linked and saw your map, well done but I noticed two errors: Thread-Jack 1. I know. 2. I modelled the map primarily after 80 folio Darlene. Wanted to keep it "old school meets new school." 3. You forgot that I spelled "Chathold," "Chathola." Amazing what the mind does after mapping for 15+ hours straight. And shhhhh... It is supposed to be a secret sig link! (forget the underline) I'm hiding! |
#25nellisirFeb 17, 2005 8:10:43 | I've been working on a rough draft outlining the Underoerth on the Canonfire forums. The main thread is here http://www.canonfire.com/htmlnew/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=841&sid=63cb1ec6b56e4cbf82e2c8b7aff48483. A second thread concerning the Lostdark (the underdark beneath the Sea of Dust and Sulhauts) has been started here http://www.canonfire.com/htmlnew/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1006&sid=63cb1ec6b56e4cbf82e2c8b7aff48483. I've got a few more posts to make there, then I'll start on the Helldark (beneath the Hellfurnaces/Crystalmists). As far as the drow go, their presence is strongest in the south and west (the Vault & the Sulhauts) and weakens from there. There is a considerable contingent in the Lortmil underdark, subservient to the drow of the Helldark, and another large grouping beneath the Sundark or Southdark (Sunndi/GK region). They are very rare in the Furyondian underdark and nonexistent in the Deephalls beneath the Griffs/Corusks/Rakers. Cheers Nell. |
#26i-m_batman_dupFeb 17, 2005 14:24:49 | Woo-hoo! It's my birthday, my buh-buh-buh-birthday!... (No, really, it is. ) |
#27cragFeb 17, 2005 17:51:48 | What about the drow presence in or rather under the Pomarj region? Btw Nell have you read the canonfire article on the various Drow vaults? |
#28nellisirFeb 17, 2005 21:06:34 | What about the drow presence in or rather under the Pomarj region? Pomarj part and parcel of the Lormils. Btw Nell have you read the canonfire article on the various Drow vaults? Yep. I'm going to use some of it, and not use some of it. Cheers, Nell. |