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A new Planescape supplement. What would it need?

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#1
zombiegleemax
Feb 10, 2005 23:28:27 Okay, since fantasy is second nature to us by now, let's all fantasize about a new planescape supplement. What would it have? Hmmm....

- Prestige classes for all the different factions
- More interesting bars and characters for Sigil (a la Faces of Sigil)
- A chapter of simple adventure ideas, not quite fully fleshed out, similar to the ones that came in the Planescape boxed sets.

What else? Come on, Planescape fanboys, help me out here? What would make a new Planescape supplement rock? Maybe someone at WotC will be wandering through the forums and be like THAT IS IT, MY NEXT PROJECT!!!
-Aphyosemion
#2
Cyriss
Feb 11, 2005 1:11:06 More fluff and less crunch on planar material. There's plenty of realms, cities, and towns on the planes that I'd love to know more about instead of making up the details on my own all the time. I hate seeing cool illustrations on the PS maps and thinking, "Woah that looks cool, I should take the party there" and then finding out there either isn't a write-up on the location in the books, or there's only a couple of paragraphs.

Right now I'm in search of a Planewalking Bounty Hunter PrC....that would be nice.

I would also love to see a supplement that finally tells us what that cute little skull faced mount that the black night is riding in all of the PS books really is.

More gods without stats would be nice.....just to you know, tick non PSers off.
#3
zombiegleemax
Feb 11, 2005 9:13:49 Hmmmmmm, so let's see now: there are already books on the Outer Planes, one on the Inner Planes, one each for the Astral and Ethereal... What's obviously missing here is a book on the Prime Material. That would have been easier (but in some regards also more difficult) to do back in the 2nd Edition, when more campaign worlds were presumed to be part of the setting (thus meaning the book would have had more sources to base it on), but a more general overview of venturing to the Prime from other planes should still be possible. At the very least I would like to see something done on the Harmonium's homeworld of Ortho.

Another idea to complete existing material would be to do something akin to "Faces of Evil", but based on the fiends' corresponding Good and Neutral races (either separately or together, depending on how much there is to write) possibly also including (if it will indeed not be enough for a book on its own) what would amount to their "Hellbound" by describing their presumably far less violent (but no less serious) ways of competing with one another for power and influence.

A third idea would be a more general work on politics and trade across the Planes. A lot has been noted on the planes separately, but how they interact is mostly mentioned in passing. It could also be a good place to further outline the post-Faction Sigil, and flesh out the factions (who have all undergone at least some changes), the sects (which the factions now seem to have come to resemble more with their fall from grace) as well as miscellaneous groups such as the Planar Trade Consortium.

A fourth idea would be an adventure anthology named "Fate of the Factols" or similar, dealing with just that. Each adventure would in some manner revolve around one of the thirteen factols (and perhaps the "closest equivalents" from the Free and Revolutionary Leagues) that were presented in "The Factol's Manifesto".

Speaking of the factols, a book with a few samples of the Lady's mazes (and their dwellers) would be something I for one would like to see.

The last, and perhaps most barmy idea of them all: expanding the cant to the point of filling a minor dictionary...
#4
nedlum
Feb 11, 2005 15:53:29 Faces of Rigousness: The Celestials

Some "Faces" to explain the Slaad and the Rilmani; the Modrons are pretty clear

The second part to Faction War.

The Manuel of the Prime (the prime from a planar perspective) would also be good.
#5
Shemeska_the_Marauder
Feb 13, 2005 18:42:12 I'd love to see the projects that were being worked on before the line was closed actually see the light of day. Planned after the known and published products were a 'City of Doors Box set' (the content for it was instead plugged into the first section of Faction War according to Monte Cook when I asked him about this), and a Demiplane sourcebook. Sweet Oinoloth on a stick would I love to have seen a PS style demiplane book.

And a book detailing various prime worlds such as Ortho, etc and lesser known prime races and pantheons.
#6
zombiegleemax
Feb 13, 2005 20:26:45 Well, when i quickly describe the pros and cons about the planescape campaign setting, it goes something like this :

- An interesting and huge pile of ideas.
- A lack of links between those ideas : a lot of work to do by oneself.

So, we have to get a selection of the ideas that please us (some characters, races and planes). Then, we have to come to something with it.

What i'd like to see is a book about "society" (economics, relationships, politics, struggles, ecology, etc.) between several planes and species carefully chosen. Something like a description on the blood war or the giths/illithids story, but on another new subject, with a lot of NPCs.

Well, maybe is it a setting inside the setting.

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#1 zombiegleemax Feb 10, 2005 23:28:27	Okay, since fantasy is second nature to us by now, let's all fantasize about a new planescape supplement. What would it have? Hmmm.... - Prestige classes for all the different factions - More interesting bars and characters for Sigil (a la Faces of Sigil) - A chapter of simple adventure ideas, not quite fully fleshed out, similar to the ones that came in the Planescape boxed sets. What else? Come on, Planescape fanboys, help me out here? What would make a new Planescape supplement rock? Maybe someone at WotC will be wandering through the forums and be like THAT IS IT, MY NEXT PROJECT!!! -Aphyosemion
#2 Cyriss Feb 11, 2005 1:11:06	More fluff and less crunch on planar material. There's plenty of realms, cities, and towns on the planes that I'd love to know more about instead of making up the details on my own all the time. I hate seeing cool illustrations on the PS maps and thinking, "Woah that looks cool, I should take the party there" and then finding out there either isn't a write-up on the location in the books, or there's only a couple of paragraphs. Right now I'm in search of a Planewalking Bounty Hunter PrC....that would be nice. I would also love to see a supplement that finally tells us what that cute little skull faced mount that the black night is riding in all of the PS books really is. More gods without stats would be nice.....just to you know, tick non PSers off.
#3 zombiegleemax Feb 11, 2005 9:13:49	Hmmmmmm, so let's see now: there are already books on the Outer Planes, one on the Inner Planes, one each for the Astral and Ethereal... What's obviously missing here is a book on the Prime Material. That would have been easier (but in some regards also more difficult) to do back in the 2nd Edition, when more campaign worlds were presumed to be part of the setting (thus meaning the book would have had more sources to base it on), but a more general overview of venturing to the Prime from other planes should still be possible. At the very least I would like to see something done on the Harmonium's homeworld of Ortho. Another idea to complete existing material would be to do something akin to "Faces of Evil", but based on the fiends' corresponding Good and Neutral races (either separately or together, depending on how much there is to write) possibly also including (if it will indeed not be enough for a book on its own) what would amount to their "Hellbound" by describing their presumably far less violent (but no less serious) ways of competing with one another for power and influence. A third idea would be a more general work on politics and trade across the Planes. A lot has been noted on the planes separately, but how they interact is mostly mentioned in passing. It could also be a good place to further outline the post-Faction Sigil, and flesh out the factions (who have all undergone at least some changes), the sects (which the factions now seem to have come to resemble more with their fall from grace) as well as miscellaneous groups such as the Planar Trade Consortium. A fourth idea would be an adventure anthology named "Fate of the Factols" or similar, dealing with just that. Each adventure would in some manner revolve around one of the thirteen factols (and perhaps the "closest equivalents" from the Free and Revolutionary Leagues) that were presented in "The Factol's Manifesto". Speaking of the factols, a book with a few samples of the Lady's mazes (and their dwellers) would be something I for one would like to see. The last, and perhaps most barmy idea of them all: expanding the cant to the point of filling a minor dictionary...
#4 nedlum Feb 11, 2005 15:53:29	Faces of Rigousness: The Celestials Some "Faces" to explain the Slaad and the Rilmani; the Modrons are pretty clear The second part to Faction War. The Manuel of the Prime (the prime from a planar perspective) would also be good.
#5 Shemeska_the_Marauder Feb 13, 2005 18:42:12	I'd love to see the projects that were being worked on before the line was closed actually see the light of day. Planned after the known and published products were a 'City of Doors Box set' (the content for it was instead plugged into the first section of Faction War according to Monte Cook when I asked him about this), and a Demiplane sourcebook. Sweet Oinoloth on a stick would I love to have seen a PS style demiplane book. And a book detailing various prime worlds such as Ortho, etc and lesser known prime races and pantheons.
#6 zombiegleemax Feb 13, 2005 20:26:45	Well, when i quickly describe the pros and cons about the planescape campaign setting, it goes something like this : - An interesting and huge pile of ideas. - A lack of links between those ideas : a lot of work to do by oneself. So, we have to get a selection of the ideas that please us (some characters, races and planes). Then, we have to come to something with it. What i'd like to see is a book about "society" (economics, relationships, politics, struggles, ecology, etc.) between several planes and species carefully chosen. Something like a description on the blood war or the giths/illithids story, but on another new subject, with a lot of NPCs. Well, maybe is it a setting inside the setting.