FR, Eberron are getting weekly adventure arcs, political group info, spells, classes, ets updates, and its good, cool stuff! DL gets nothing...oh sure the bi-monthly or more web enhancement or bunus game material, but I want more! I think its only fair anyway...
Adam
Though I'm sure it takes a little while to review the submissions, and a weekly update might be asking a little too much, I bet if enough people started submitting those types of things to the page, they'd start to get posted.
Having so many worlds was one of the reasons that WotC wasn't making any money. Having a specific world is a vey niche market, and to create so many products for so many worlds had them spreading themselves thin and it just didn't make business sense. That's one reason why they created the open gaming lisense to allow for already establish campaign worlds to continue to exist but under no expense to WotC.
To get the supplements you want, is now the responsibility ot Soveriegn Press.
I am getting frustrated. The best D&D world (IMO) is being completely ignored by WoTC! I understand they sold the rights to Soverign Press, but hey, don't stop giving cool info on it...
FR, Eberron are getting weekly adventure arcs, political group info, spells, classes, ets updates, and its good, cool stuff! DL gets nothing...oh sure the bi-monthly or more web enhancement or bunus game material, but I want more! I think its only fair anyway...
Adam
I said the same thing awhile back. Someone slipped me a link to the same site, and DragonLance.com. While there are a few things on these two sites, they are nothing like the extensive information provided for Eberron, and I guess FR(I don't hang there, so I do not know what is happening on the FR boards).
To tell the truth I think that it is up to DL.COM, and DL3E.COM to provide extra info. for the DL fans. Why are these TWO sites so empty ? Eberron has one main site, here on the WoTC site. DragonLance has two, but the content is still lacking.....hmmm. Have you seen the sheer amount of fluff-related fansites for RavenLoft ? Do a search on Yahoo and you will see what I am talking about. The fans are off-the-chain when it comes to RL!
Anyway, WoTC has enough to deal with supporting Eberron and FR, they should not have to carry DL's fluff as well.
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To tell the truth I think that it is up to DL.COM, and DL3E.COM to provide extra info. for the DL fans. Why are these TWO sites so empty ?
You have got to be kidding me.
Now, DL.com doesn't have a lot on it, but that's because Sov. Press took it over a few months back and hasn't had a lot of time to devote to bonus online material.
To call the Nexus "empty", though, is ridiculous. We have weekly updates at the least, sometimes daily. Our product section details each novel and gaming supplement. We have a reference section, features, and a huge fan section that includes fan art, gaming rules, music, and even recipes.
That's hardly empty. I don't know what more you could want from the Nexus, dude.
Eberron has one main site, here on the WoTC site. DragonLance has two, but the content is still lacking.....hmmm. Have you seen the sheer amount of fluff-related fansites for RavenLoft ? Do a search on Yahoo and you will see what I am talking about. The fans are off-the-chain when it comes to RL!
Good for them. I know the Kargatane was a huge inspiration in its time.
Anyway, WoTC has enough to deal with supporting Eberron and FR, they should not have to carry DL's fluff as well.
WotC does have a DL support page, although it isn't updated all that often.
You have got to be kidding me.
Now, DL.com doesn't have a lot on it, but that's because Sov. Press took it over a few months back and hasn't had a lot of time to devote to bonus online material.
To call the Nexus "empty", though, is ridiculous. We have weekly updates at the least, sometimes daily. Our product section details each novel and gaming supplement. We have a reference section, features, and a huge fan section that includes fan art, gaming rules, music, and even recipes.
That's hardly empty. I don't know what more you could want from the Nexus, dude.
I couldn't agree more. While I think SP is responsilbe for putting out extra DL items, one can hardly blame them for not getting alot out. It's not a large staff and so every moment of time is spent on the products. They are working very hard to put out quality products as it is, and I would rather have them spend the time to put that out instead of web extra's.
As for the Nexus, it's a great resource that I use all the time to look for reference material and information about Krynn. I use that and the Chamber of Astinius. Both great websites.
To tell the truth I think that it is up to DL.COM, and DL3E.COM to provide extra info. for the DL fans. Why are these TWO sites so empty ?
Re: The Nexus. If by 'empty' you mean only 2,800 or so fan submissions (of artwork, rules, editorials, reviews, etc.) then, yeah, I suppose that's empty. And if you don't see the info there, then I suggest you do what we tell everyone else who complains about it: we take submissions (hint, hint).
Each way has an advantage.. and disadvantage. If you post everything than there can be a wealth of knowledge that the website can contain, but its annoying to sift through a lot of things to find the good stuff. If you rate stuff and decide on an individual basis, most things that get through may well be "good", but who knows if you miss out on something because one person doesnt like it or deems it not necessary.
I've been there(dl3e.com) a few times to look over stuff, and sometimes I get a little annoyed that it has things like WoHS classes or KoS classes. They arent even labeled "alternate" or anything. I always though that they have been there since before SP for fans to use, but now that there are offical books that stat out these things, I guess I see it more as clutter now. I guess if there were sections for "alternate" writeups, I would be a little happier. But then again, the world doesnt revolve around me, so maybe its just my problem.
I actually downloaded two things from the site, which I am amazed at because I usually dont use "fan" or "extra" stuff, but my girlfriend wanted to play an Aurak and it was nice to be able to download the Monster class for it. So I downloadedthe monster classes for all the draconians and noble draconians. I read some of the articles once in awhile, like about mystics, moon magic, etc, but thats about it. And very infrequently.
Please take this post as least negative as posibble because I do like the fact that Dragonlance has a site that has many submissions and is very close to the people who actually make the products. I usually come off pretty negative in posts just because those are the things that usually make me want to write in. I rarely ever write in "Good Jobs", which maybe I'll work on heh.
Some stuff just seems to be a little outdated(either there already being a *real* class available now or there arent exactly synced up with 3.5). The classes and PrC's are sorted by author, which I find a little hard to find what I'm looking for. But I admit, I'm not sure how else you would really put the stuff on there without making multiple links.. as in Mystic PrC's, etc.
As I said, my main wonderment was what actually goes into things being "accepted". Good website all in all tho
shameless bump..but I'm actually curious in how things work at the website.
Translation: I have the crud.
How exactly does the submission thing work? Do you guys accept and post anything that is sent to you. Or is there an approval process that it has to go through by someone?
We're pretty open about accepting submissions. After all, we support as many points of view on DL as possible. If a submission is just junk, we won't take it.
That's for our fandom section. For reference, we don't post varying points of view so as to not confuse fans who just want to know abut the world.
Each way has an advantage.. and disadvantage. If you post everything than there can be a wealth of knowledge that the website can contain, but its annoying to sift through a lot of things to find the good stuff. If you rate stuff and decide on an individual basis, most things that get through may well be "good", but who knows if you miss out on something because one person doesnt like it or deems it not necessary.
This is why I feel that ratings are important, and I do encourage more people to use that function. One person may find an article to be bad, another good. The more votes, the more you see a general consensus.
I've been there(dl3e.com) a few times to look over stuff, and sometimes I get a little annoyed that it has things like WoHS classes or KoS classes. They arent even labeled "alternate" or anything. I always though that they have been there since before SP for fans to use, but now that there are offical books that stat out these things, I guess I see it more as clutter now. I guess if there were sections for "alternate" writeups, I would be a little happier. But then again, the world doesnt revolve around me, so maybe its just my problem.
Many of the write-ups for the KoS and WoHS are definitely from the time prior to Sov. Press. Really, the entire fan gaming section is a grouping of alternates, as well as add-ons.
Since Sov. Press has been putting out DL gaming books, I've noticed a vast decline in alternate KoS and WoHS classes, and seen an increase in articles that will prove to be more helpful. For example, Brinebeast recently sent us a submission where he showed how to adapt Dragon #328 to DL.
So overall, I think the quality of the articles is getting better, as well as the quantity of useful articles.
I actually downloaded two things from the site, which I am amazed at because I usually dont use "fan" or "extra" stuff, but my girlfriend wanted to play an Aurak and it was nice to be able to download the Monster class for it. So I downloadedthe monster classes for all the draconians and noble draconians. I read some of the articles once in awhile, like about mystics, moon magic, etc, but thats about it. And very infrequently.
I'm glad the ones you did download were useful to you.
Please take this post as least negative as posibble because I do like the fact that Dragonlance has a site that has many submissions and is very close to the people who actually make the products. I usually come off pretty negative in posts just because those are the things that usually make me want to write in. I rarely ever write in "Good Jobs", which maybe I'll work on heh.
We always appreciate the feedback, and are constantly working to improve the site.
Some stuff just seems to be a little outdated(either there already being a *real* class available now or there arent exactly synced up with 3.5).
Indeed, some of our submissions are from the 3.0 days, and there's even a few SAGA and AD&D submissions in there as well. Plus, some of our contributors are better game designers than others, so that may play a part in things.
The classes and PrC's are sorted by author, which I find a little hard to find what I'm looking for. But I admit, I'm not sure how else you would really put the stuff on there without making multiple links.. as in Mystic PrC's, etc.
You can sort by a variety of ways, either by author, title, rating, or date. I typically use author or title for the fan rules, and rating with the art.
As I said, my main wonderment was what actually goes into things being "accepted". Good website all in all tho
Thanks!
I appreciate the feedback, and if there's anything you would like to see on the site, give me a jingle.
Gnome-At Arms(If i ever play a Gnome)
Knight Errant(This is ultamitly awesome)
War Wizard(Neat-O. I wonder if it stacks with Warmage(AoM).)
But, i'm naming three. That's not all the good ones. There are lots of others around the site. Be warned though, there's also lots of junk.
Oh and whoever's responisble for fan submissions of classes:How did the Legionaire get accepted? It fights as well as a fighter, has rogue skills, gets sneak attack, evasion, uncanny dodge. . . The list goes on. Just wondering a bit.
I like the Nexus, as it has lots of Prestige Classes and Base Classes that i might someday use. Some of my favorites are:
Gnome-At Arms(If i ever play a Gnome)
Knight Errant(This is ultamitly awesome)
War Wizard(Neat-O. I wonder if it stacks with Warmage(AoM).)
Oh wow, two of those are mine. :D
The War Wizard is actually the predecessor of the AoM War mage, so they really would not stack.
Oh and whoever's responisble for fan submissions of classes:How did the Legionaire get accepted? It fights as well as a fighter, has rogue skills, gets sneak attack, evasion, uncanny dodge. . . The list goes on. Just wondering a bit.
Like I said, we're pretty open about what we accept. There's good submissions and bad. The idea, though, would be to have a repository for fans to post their materials.
Like I said, we're pretty open about what we accept. There's good submissions and bad. The idea, though, would be to have a repository for fans to post their materials.
One thing, which we have the ability to do, is to reset the vote counts periodically. By default, things are sorted by the overall rating they get, although I should probably modify the algorithm a bit so that it takes into account the number of people that have voted for an item.
At this point in time, we haven't reset the stats for items in a very long time, and it may be time to go ahead and do that, simply to weed out some of the things that aren't in as high demand anymore, and some that aren't "canon" now that we have official rules for them.
Thoughts?
P.S: Appreciate the general feedback. It's good to hear what we're doing well, and also areas that we can improve.
I used to be extremely "into" DL but then I allowed myself to be tempted away by the twin Succubi Forgotten Realms and Eberron... I even had one of my articles accepted into the Tobril. I've spent too much time with the mistresses, I should go home to the wife.
On my side of the fence is a world where I see an opportunity to be able to add my own 'fluff' to one of my favourite campaign settings. Theres enough 'crunch' in existance to be able to do that quite capably. I understand there are those who think the grass is greener on the other side, and that's ok by me.
The only thing that puts me off is possible conflict with future 'fluff' releases from Sov. Press. The only solution to that is if, instead of spending time creating periodicals, they could review the fan submissions and accept them into canon.
Does anyone think this would be possible?
The only solution to that is if, instead of spending time creating periodicals, they could review the fan submissions and accept them into canon.
Does anyone think this would be possible?
Not that I have any say in this, and my comments should be interpreted as my own uninformed opinion, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.