In the LG book it mentions several types of elves:
High, Wood, Gray, Wood, Wild, and Valley.
It seems they all use the standard elf racial package, so they are all rule-wise the same. Someone has mentioned that Gray elves get different stat modifiers. Is that true, and if so where can I find said changes?
And what is a Gray and Valley elf? And whats the difference between Wild and Wood elves?
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I noticed you mentioned the Wood Elves Twice.
Doh! Thats what you get for posting whilst suffering insomnia.
However if you had the 2nd edition Elves Handbook it has different stat blocks for all of the elven subraces except the Valley and Grugach.
I sold all my 2nd ed stuff when 3.0 came out. So I can assume then that there is no changes to the different elves stats under 3rd?
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I signed up to Canonfire yesturday but haven't had the time to look through it all yet. I'll check your articles out when I'm more awake. Thanx.
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Thanx. I'll look into that site as well.
In the LG book it mentions several types of elves:
High, Wood, Gray, Wood, Wild, and Valley.
It seems they all use the standard elf racial package, so they are all rule-wise the same. Someone has mentioned that Gray elves get different stat modifiers. Is that true, and if so where can I find said changes?
And what is a Gray and Valley elf? And whats the difference between Wild and Wood elves?
From the Monster Manual:
High Elf: Standard Elf
Wood Elf: Additional +2 Str, -2 Int. Favored Class-Ranger.
Gray Elf: Additional +2 Int, -2 Str.
Wild Elf: +2 Dex, -2 Int instead of standard. Favored Class-Sorcerer.
From Living Greyhawk Journal #2:
Valley Elf: As High Elf. +4 racial bonus to Disguise to try to look human. -2 Diplomacy, Gather Information, and Intimidate when dealing with other elven subraces.
Gray Elf-Noble, aloof, and arrogant elves living in mountain citadels.
Valley Elf-High Elf offshoot living in the Vale of the Mage. Servants and soldiers of the Mage of the Valley.
Wood elves are more reclusive than normal elves and live in ancient forests.
Wild elves are savage nomadic barbarians.
They are a "race" of elves whom dislike the human incursion and even shun other elves, as they blame them for allowing the humans and other races to flourish across the lands. Kinda..
Whether they are a race is up for debate. I think they are just a sect of wood elf supremecists, but whatever...
Gray Elf-Noble, aloof, and arrogant elves living in mountain citadels.
Are they based in a specific area, or do they have these strongholds throughout the mountains of the Flanaess?
Gray elves look like moon elves only a little paler and more with Silver hair, and the High elves look like gold elves but have the traditional D+D stats.
the major high elve enclave is highmoon, which is south of the Vesve and NW of furyondy along the river there.
the major gray elve enclave is Celene, these elves are xenophobic human dislikers who stick to themselves and are High level mages.
Honestly all my GH stuff is in storage so this is from memory. The other major high elf cities are in Sunni I think...
Grugach elves (War1): CR 1; medium humanoid (4 ft. 6 inches tall/90 lb.); HD 1d8+1; hp 7 each; Init +1; Spd 30 ft.; AC 15 (+1 Dex, +4 chain shirt), touch 11, flat footed 14; BAB +1; Grapple +2; Atk +3 melee or ranged (1d6+1, crit x2, range incr. 20 ft., short spear) or +2 melee or ranged (1d4+1, crit 19-20/x2, range incr. 10 ft., dagger); Full Atk +1 melee or ranged (1d6+1, crit x2, range incr. 20 ft., short spear) or +2 melee or ranged (1d4+1, crit 19-20/x2, range incr. 10 ft., dagger); SQ Elven Traits; Space/Reach 5 ft./5 ft.; AL CN; SV Fort +1, Ref +1, Will +0; Str 12, Dex 13, Con 12, Int 9, Wis 11, Cha 9.
Skills: Hide -1, Listen +3, Search +3, Spot +2.
Feats: Weapon Focus (short spear)
Languages: Common, Elven.
SA/SQ — Elf Racial traits (Ex): Proficient with long sword, rapier, longbow, composite long bow, shortbow and composite shortbow; immunity to magical sleep spells and effects; +2 Will save vs. enchantment spells and effects; Low-light vision — can see twice as far as a human in torchlight, starlight, or moonlight.
Equipment: Chain shirt, short spear, dagger.
These look like small, very slim wood elves. They have yellow to copper red skin and dark green and brown clothing. They all have very broad shoulders.
This might not be entirely accurate (especially the equipment but they were shrunk to an inch tall at the time and having to make do). I'm also writing from work with only these notes available.
[NOTE: The skills take into account the chain shirts.]
I ran them as xenophobic wood elves (and we all know how xenophobic wood elves are). The PCs were smart enough to avoid them.
http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/monstersEtoF.html#elf
Wild Elf
Wild elves are barbaric and tribal. Wild elves’ hair color ranges from black to light brown, lightening to silvery white with age. They dress in simple clothing of animal skins and basic plant weaves.
Wild Elf Traits (Ex): These traits are in addition to the high elf traits, except where noted.
+2 Dexterity, –2 Intelligence. These adjustments replace the high elf ’s ability score adjustments.
Favored Class: Sorcerer. This trait replaces the high elf ’s favored class.
I personally change the rapier prof. to falchion but other than that use them as is.
You guys DO realize that Wild Elf (as listed in the Monster manual) is just another name for grugach right... in fact the Monster manual entry on wild elf starts with the words... "Wild elves, also known as Grugach, are...."
You guys DO realize that Wild Elf (as listed in the Monster manual) is just another name for grugach right... in fact the Monster manual entry on wild elf starts with the words... "Wild elves, also known as Grugach, are...."
No, I didn't. I used the 3.0 MM for my conversion but never noticed it in either.
actually they bore me... put me to sleep that is... ;)