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DS3 spells:Tree of Life

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#1
zombiegleemax
Feb 27, 2005 12:48:32 After reviewing the DS3 from Athas.org I noticed the tree of life spell was missing. Has it been eliminated or converted ?

Is the Templar spell list in DS3 in addtion to the cleric list? They dont have many spells in this version compared to 2e.
#2
lyric
Feb 27, 2005 15:13:27 I want that spell! i loved that one and I loved the powers it granted! especially to priests Did you ever read the story of the low level templar who joined with one of those trees using two different low level spells, and who then pushed up the roots to trip a passing half giant only to find that the roots became "new" trees of life?? I like that thought imagine an entire grove of those?? :D
#3
superpriest
Feb 27, 2005 18:23:35 The tree of life has been revised in Terrors of the Dead Lands, which should come out any day now. The new version is created with more 3.5-appropriate methods.
#4
jon_oracle_of_athas
Feb 28, 2005 2:46:40 The templar spell list is not in addition to the cleric spell list. Templars get 4+ skill points per level and the advantage of spontanous casting, a smaller spell selection is a balancing factor.
#5
zombiegleemax
Feb 28, 2005 21:54:57 I didnt see the rejuvenate spell for templars either even though its how they have been able to keep the areas around the city-states fertile
#6
lyric
Mar 01, 2005 16:16:21
I didnt see the rejuvenate spell for templars either even though its how they have been able to keep the areas around the city-states fertile

small spell selection?? I haven't read the new write up on Templars, but it was my understanding that originally they had fewer spells per day than a cleric of their level, until they hit the highest levels (17-20) but that they had access to basically all priestly magic?? That changed?? (keeping in mind that rather than have cool granted powers like a druid or cleric, like gating in elements or ignoring fire or what have you, or the druids powers, a templar had abilities that were restricted to his authority in his city state, like, commanding soldiers or ordering people around). Isn't that a balance?
#7
zombiegleemax
Mar 01, 2005 22:12:12 Actually it's not an advantage, the Templar's authority is limited to one city. The cleric's abilities are not, furthermore the cleric now has a larger spell selection than in 2e, taking away some of the struggle that he had as a cleric of the elements on Athas. Add to the fact that a Templar must permanently pick his spells like a sorcerer doesnt help. One change I would suggest is that the templar be allowed to choose from all the spells within his spell list, rather than those he has picked.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Feb 27, 2005 12:48:32	After reviewing the DS3 from Athas.org I noticed the tree of life spell was missing. Has it been eliminated or converted ? Is the Templar spell list in DS3 in addtion to the cleric list? They dont have many spells in this version compared to 2e.
#2 lyric Feb 27, 2005 15:13:27	I want that spell! i loved that one and I loved the powers it granted! especially to priests Did you ever read the story of the low level templar who joined with one of those trees using two different low level spells, and who then pushed up the roots to trip a passing half giant only to find that the roots became "new" trees of life?? I like that thought imagine an entire grove of those?? :D
#3 superpriest Feb 27, 2005 18:23:35	The tree of life has been revised in Terrors of the Dead Lands, which should come out any day now. The new version is created with more 3.5-appropriate methods.
#4 jon_oracle_of_athas Feb 28, 2005 2:46:40	The templar spell list is not in addition to the cleric spell list. Templars get 4+ skill points per level and the advantage of spontanous casting, a smaller spell selection is a balancing factor.
#5 zombiegleemax Feb 28, 2005 21:54:57	I didnt see the rejuvenate spell for templars either even though its how they have been able to keep the areas around the city-states fertile
#6 lyric Mar 01, 2005 16:16:21	I didnt see the rejuvenate spell for templars either even though its how they have been able to keep the areas around the city-states fertile small spell selection?? I haven't read the new write up on Templars, but it was my understanding that originally they had fewer spells per day than a cleric of their level, until they hit the highest levels (17-20) but that they had access to basically all priestly magic?? That changed?? (keeping in mind that rather than have cool granted powers like a druid or cleric, like gating in elements or ignoring fire or what have you, or the druids powers, a templar had abilities that were restricted to his authority in his city state, like, commanding soldiers or ordering people around). Isn't that a balance?
#7 zombiegleemax Mar 01, 2005 22:12:12	Actually it's not an advantage, the Templar's authority is limited to one city. The cleric's abilities are not, furthermore the cleric now has a larger spell selection than in 2e, taking away some of the struggle that he had as a cleric of the elements on Athas. Add to the fact that a Templar must permanently pick his spells like a sorcerer doesnt help. One change I would suggest is that the templar be allowed to choose from all the spells within his spell list, rather than those he has picked.