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#1
zombiegleemax
Mar 02, 2005 5:36:11 I am writing a DarkSun campaign and I would want to know if there is some Sorcerer-Kings or important powerful characters on Athas that it is died with particular connection with the fire?

Thank you
#2
dawnstealer
Mar 02, 2005 10:46:51 Hamanu comes to mind, since he was the "Troll Scorcher." If you're looking for someone who died, there's always Myron of Yoram, the Champion that Hamanu replaced. There's a good chance he was "scorched" before Rajaat "fired" him. Get it? "Fired?" HAHHAHAHHAHHAAHHAA
#3
zombiegleemax
Mar 02, 2005 11:16:19 Thanks.
You could give other information to me about Myron of Yoram?

Exists a handbook where can find also one small information?

Thanks a lot
#4
dawnstealer
Mar 02, 2005 11:51:48 Unfortunately, there isn't much on Myron (his name has been "stricken from the books" so to speak), so you are unlimited in what you create. It is known that he lost his urge to scorch trolls and fell from Rajaat's grace, leading him to be killed and replaced by Hamanu. He was a champion, so he was undoubtably powerful, but beyond that, not much is known.
#5
Sysane
Mar 02, 2005 11:57:31 There was Caelm (sp?) from the Prism Pentad. He's a dwarf that claimed to be Sun Cleric but used mostly fire based spells. Granted, he bought it pretty hardcore in the Valley of Dust & Fire fighting the Dragon.
#6
dawnstealer
Mar 02, 2005 12:07:33 I tracked down the stats I used for Hamanu. They're 3.0 rather than 3.5, but you should be able to modify it from there and change it over to Yoram:

Expert 3/Psy War 6/Wizard 20/Psion (Savant) 20/Dragon 4 (not included below)

Str 17, Dex 18, Con 16, Int 23, Wis 19, Cha 22
Base Attack: +15/+5 (this doesn't look right - check me on this)
Feats: Run, Alertness, Improved Unarmed Strike, Leadership, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Greatsword), Weapon Specialization (Greatsword), Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus (Evoc), Cleave, Forge Ring, Great Cleave, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Ambidexterity, Dodge, Craft Staff, Track, Psionic Focus (Kin), Scribe Tattoo, Craft Psionic Arms and Armor, Psionic Weapon, Epic Leadership, Craft Crystal Capacitor, Deep Impact.
[b]Skills:[B/]Animal Empathy 4, Balance 18, Concentration 25, Decipher Script 6, Handle Animal 2, Jump 6, Knowledge (trolls) 20, Perfom (dance) 6, Ride 3, Search 11, Spot 20, Tumble 12, Stabalize Self 20, Psionic Device 20, Knowledge (Tactics) 23, Autohypnosis 20, Craft (weapon) 18, Knowledge (magic) 18, Scry 20, Spellcraft 25, Knowledge (psionics) 25, Psicraft 25, Remote View 25.

Now the fun part: Psionic Powers.

Psychic Warrior 6th
0: Burst, Daze, Catfall
1: Combat Precognition, Lesser Metaphysical Weapon, Hustle
2: Darkvision, Painful Touch

Psion (Savant) 20th
0: Inkling, Talons, Far Hand, Detect Psionics, Distract, Missive, Control Shadow, Know Direction
1: Matter Agitation, Lesser Body Adjustment, Identify, Disable, Object Read
2: Control Flames, Concussion, See Invisible, Body Adjustment, Brain Lock
3: Great Concussion, Remote View, Mindlink, Invisibility Purge, Rejuvination
4: Inertial Barrier, Polymorph Self, Detect Remote Viewing, Aura Sight
5: Brilliant Blast, Metaconcert, Teleport, True See
6: Ablating, Aura Alteration, Null Psionics Field, Retrieve
7: True Concussion, Mass Domination, Ultrablast
8: Matter Manipulation, Mind Blank
9: True Telekinesis, Dissolution

HP: Average to this point would be around 307.

Again, remember this is without any dragon levels. Below, if you're still reading, is my version of the prestige dragon class. Again, it is very, very similar to the original:

Dragon of Athas Epic Prestige Class
Prerequisites: Must be Human; Int=18, Wis=16, Con=15; Must be able to cast 9th level spells; Must be able to manifest 9th level powers; Spellcraft = 25; Psicraft=25; Knowledge (Magic)=25; Knowledge (psionics)=25. Yeah it's tough! It's a freakin' person becoming a freakin' dragon: it ain't easy!

Level Base Att F R W AC Special
1 +15 +15 +10 +8 +0 +1 lvl Psi,Wiz; Dragon 1, bonus feat
2 +20 +18 +12 +12 +0 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 2, bonus feat
3 +25 +21 +14 +16 +0 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 3
4 +30 +24 +16 +20 +4 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 4, bonus feat
5 +35 +28 +18 +24 +8 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 5
6 +40 +32 +20 +28 +15 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 6, bonus feat
7 +45 +36 +22 +32 +24 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 7
8 +50 +40 +24 +36 +30 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 8, bonus feat
9 +55 +44 +26 +40 +40 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 9
10 +60 +48 +28 +44 +55 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 10, bonus feat

Figured they'd get a +5 to their Strength and Constitution per level. Dex would go up 1 every three levels. Spell Resistance (starting at 5th) would go up by 5 per level. Fear, starting at 4th, (12) would go up by these increments: 12, 14, 16, 20, 25, 30, 40.

Breath Weapon is per the original, so starting at 7th level, it would be 10d12, 15d12, 20d12, and 25d12 (nasty).

Damage Reduction, starting at 1st level, would go up by 2 each level.

Regeneration, starting at first, would go like this (per level): 1,1,1,2,2,3,4,6,8,10.

Hit Dice per level is exactly like Dragon Kings: 10d4, 5d4, 3d4, 2d4, 2d4, 3d4, 3d4, 4d4, 4d4, 5d4.

There's always the simple fire cleric. In Earth, Air, Fire, and Water, there are several characters that would work: Solzak (12th level LN Fire Cleric) guards the Shrine of Fire between Nibenay and Gulg; Limrick the Mad (12 level CN Sun Cleric) guards the Shrine of the Sun near Salt View; Thyraximus the Crazed (13th level LE Magma Cleric) guards the Shrine of Magma in a volcano on (or near) Lake Island.
#7
Sysane
Mar 02, 2005 12:47:47 And just in case you forgot, here's the stats for the common Baboon:

BABOON

Medium Animal
Hit Dice: 1d8+1 (5 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares), climb 30 ft.
Armor Class: 13 (+2 Dex, +1 natural), touch 12, flat-footed 11
Base Attack/Grapple: +0/+2
Attack: Bite +2 melee (1d6+3)
Full Attack:Bite +2 melee (1d6+3)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: —
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent
Saves: Fort +3, Ref +4, Will +1
Abilities: Str 15, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 4
Skills: Climb +10, Listen +5, Spot +5
Feats: Alertness
Environment: Warm plains
Organization: Solitary or troop (10–40)
Challenge Rating: 1/2
Advancement: 2–3 HD (Medium)
Level Adjustment: —

Every good adventure needs an encouter with Baboons :P
#8
dawnstealer
Mar 02, 2005 14:01:52 Indeed. And caterpillers.
#9
jon_oracle_of_athas
Mar 02, 2005 18:26:09 And dwelves... err bogo snakes.
#10
dawnstealer
Mar 03, 2005 2:14:18 Haha! Silly Jon: it's "dwelfs!" Some oracle you are!
#11
lyric
Mar 03, 2005 4:09:08
And just in case you forgot, here's the stats for the common Baboon:

BABOON...

Every good adventure needs an encouter with Baboons :P

I have new respect for you THAT, was funny

:D

Thanks
#12
zombiegleemax
Mar 04, 2005 18:51:14
Unfortunately, there isn't much on Myron (his name has been "stricken from the books" so to speak), so you are unlimited in what you create. It is known that he lost his urge to scorch trolls and fell from Rajaat's grace, leading him to be killed and replaced by Hamanu. He was a champion, so he was undoubtably powerful, but beyond that, not much is known.

In Rise and Fall of a Dragon King there is a description of Myron being killed by Hamanu who sucks him dry absorbing his memories and power. Chapter 10 if you are interested.
#13
dawnstealer
Mar 04, 2005 22:42:36 Oh, I've read it and it's been discussed ad nauseum on these boards. Also discussed is the fact that Libbey was cut off from the DS creators, so the information in that book is conjecture on her part rather than canon.

I'll rephrase: There's nothing canon on Myron other than he was the first troll scorcher and he was replaced by Hamanu when he dropped from Rajaat's favor.
#14
nytcrawlr
Mar 04, 2005 22:49:37 Where's that hunting cactus with a cape again?

Just saw him messing around the other day....odd little fellow.
#15
dawnstealer
Mar 05, 2005 2:19:39 Ah, yes: Doomspike. Still haven't drawn that one up, yet.
#16
zombiegleemax
Mar 06, 2005 3:05:55
Oh, I've read it and it's been discussed ad nauseum on these boards. Also discussed is the fact that Libbey was cut off from the DS creators, so the information in that book is conjecture on her part rather than canon.

I'll rephrase: There's nothing canon on Myron other than he was the first troll scorcher and he was replaced by Hamanu when he dropped from Rajaat's favor.

Intelligent and logical conjecture, but yes it is all technically non canon. A shame really, there are so many great ideas in there.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Mar 02, 2005 5:36:11	I am writing a DarkSun campaign and I would want to know if there is some Sorcerer-Kings or important powerful characters on Athas that it is died with particular connection with the fire? Thank you
#2 dawnstealer Mar 02, 2005 10:46:51	Hamanu comes to mind, since he was the "Troll Scorcher." If you're looking for someone who died, there's always Myron of Yoram, the Champion that Hamanu replaced. There's a good chance he was "scorched" before Rajaat "fired" him. Get it? "Fired?" HAHHAHAHHAHHAAHHAA
#3 zombiegleemax Mar 02, 2005 11:16:19	Thanks. You could give other information to me about Myron of Yoram? Exists a handbook where can find also one small information? Thanks a lot
#4 dawnstealer Mar 02, 2005 11:51:48	Unfortunately, there isn't much on Myron (his name has been "stricken from the books" so to speak), so you are unlimited in what you create. It is known that he lost his urge to scorch trolls and fell from Rajaat's grace, leading him to be killed and replaced by Hamanu. He was a champion, so he was undoubtably powerful, but beyond that, not much is known.
#5 Sysane Mar 02, 2005 11:57:31	There was Caelm (sp?) from the Prism Pentad. He's a dwarf that claimed to be Sun Cleric but used mostly fire based spells. Granted, he bought it pretty hardcore in the Valley of Dust & Fire fighting the Dragon.
#6 dawnstealer Mar 02, 2005 12:07:33	I tracked down the stats I used for Hamanu. They're 3.0 rather than 3.5, but you should be able to modify it from there and change it over to Yoram: Expert 3/Psy War 6/Wizard 20/Psion (Savant) 20/Dragon 4 (not included below) Str 17, Dex 18, Con 16, Int 23, Wis 19, Cha 22 Base Attack: +15/+5 (this doesn't look right - check me on this) Feats: Run, Alertness, Improved Unarmed Strike, Leadership, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Greatsword), Weapon Specialization (Greatsword), Scribe Scroll, Spell Focus (Evoc), Cleave, Forge Ring, Great Cleave, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Ambidexterity, Dodge, Craft Staff, Track, Psionic Focus (Kin), Scribe Tattoo, Craft Psionic Arms and Armor, Psionic Weapon, Epic Leadership, Craft Crystal Capacitor, Deep Impact. [b]Skills:[B/]Animal Empathy 4, Balance 18, Concentration 25, Decipher Script 6, Handle Animal 2, Jump 6, Knowledge (trolls) 20, Perfom (dance) 6, Ride 3, Search 11, Spot 20, Tumble 12, Stabalize Self 20, Psionic Device 20, Knowledge (Tactics) 23, Autohypnosis 20, Craft (weapon) 18, Knowledge (magic) 18, Scry 20, Spellcraft 25, Knowledge (psionics) 25, Psicraft 25, Remote View 25. Now the fun part: Psionic Powers. Psychic Warrior 6th 0: Burst, Daze, Catfall 1: Combat Precognition, Lesser Metaphysical Weapon, Hustle 2: Darkvision, Painful Touch Psion (Savant) 20th 0: Inkling, Talons, Far Hand, Detect Psionics, Distract, Missive, Control Shadow, Know Direction 1: Matter Agitation, Lesser Body Adjustment, Identify, Disable, Object Read 2: Control Flames, Concussion, See Invisible, Body Adjustment, Brain Lock 3: Great Concussion, Remote View, Mindlink, Invisibility Purge, Rejuvination 4: Inertial Barrier, Polymorph Self, Detect Remote Viewing, Aura Sight 5: Brilliant Blast, Metaconcert, Teleport, True See 6: Ablating, Aura Alteration, Null Psionics Field, Retrieve 7: True Concussion, Mass Domination, Ultrablast 8: Matter Manipulation, Mind Blank 9: True Telekinesis, Dissolution HP: Average to this point would be around 307. Again, remember this is without any dragon levels. Below, if you're still reading, is my version of the prestige dragon class. Again, it is very, very similar to the original: Dragon of Athas Epic Prestige Class Prerequisites: Must be Human; Int=18, Wis=16, Con=15; Must be able to cast 9th level spells; Must be able to manifest 9th level powers; Spellcraft = 25; Psicraft=25; Knowledge (Magic)=25; Knowledge (psionics)=25. Yeah it's tough! It's a freakin' person becoming a freakin' dragon: it ain't easy! Level Base Att F R W AC Special 1 +15 +15 +10 +8 +0 +1 lvl Psi,Wiz; Dragon 1, bonus feat 2 +20 +18 +12 +12 +0 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 2, bonus feat 3 +25 +21 +14 +16 +0 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 3 4 +30 +24 +16 +20 +4 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 4, bonus feat 5 +35 +28 +18 +24 +8 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 5 6 +40 +32 +20 +28 +15 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 6, bonus feat 7 +45 +36 +22 +32 +24 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 7 8 +50 +40 +24 +36 +30 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 8, bonus feat 9 +55 +44 +26 +40 +40 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 9 10 +60 +48 +28 +44 +55 +1 lvl Psi, Wiz; Dragon 10, bonus feat Figured they'd get a +5 to their Strength and Constitution per level. Dex would go up 1 every three levels. Spell Resistance (starting at 5th) would go up by 5 per level. Fear, starting at 4th, (12) would go up by these increments: 12, 14, 16, 20, 25, 30, 40. Breath Weapon is per the original, so starting at 7th level, it would be 10d12, 15d12, 20d12, and 25d12 (nasty). Damage Reduction, starting at 1st level, would go up by 2 each level. Regeneration, starting at first, would go like this (per level): 1,1,1,2,2,3,4,6,8,10. Hit Dice per level is exactly like Dragon Kings: 10d4, 5d4, 3d4, 2d4, 2d4, 3d4, 3d4, 4d4, 4d4, 5d4. There's always the simple fire cleric. In Earth, Air, Fire, and Water, there are several characters that would work: Solzak (12th level LN Fire Cleric) guards the Shrine of Fire between Nibenay and Gulg; Limrick the Mad (12 level CN Sun Cleric) guards the Shrine of the Sun near Salt View; Thyraximus the Crazed (13th level LE Magma Cleric) guards the Shrine of Magma in a volcano on (or near) Lake Island.
#7 Sysane Mar 02, 2005 12:47:47	And just in case you forgot, here's the stats for the common Baboon: BABOON Medium Animal Hit Dice: 1d8+1 (5 hp) Initiative: +2 Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares), climb 30 ft. Armor Class: 13 (+2 Dex, +1 natural), touch 12, flat-footed 11 Base Attack/Grapple: +0/+2 Attack: Bite +2 melee (1d6+3) Full Attack:Bite +2 melee (1d6+3) Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: — Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent Saves: Fort +3, Ref +4, Will +1 Abilities: Str 15, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 4 Skills: Climb +10, Listen +5, Spot +5 Feats: Alertness Environment: Warm plains Organization: Solitary or troop (10–40) Challenge Rating: 1/2 Advancement: 2–3 HD (Medium) Level Adjustment: — Every good adventure needs an encouter with Baboons :P
#8 dawnstealer Mar 02, 2005 14:01:52	Indeed. And caterpillers.
#9 jon_oracle_of_athas Mar 02, 2005 18:26:09	And dwelves... err bogo snakes.
#10 dawnstealer Mar 03, 2005 2:14:18	Haha! Silly Jon: it's "dwelfs!" Some oracle you are!
#11 lyric Mar 03, 2005 4:09:08	And just in case you forgot, here's the stats for the common Baboon: BABOON... Every good adventure needs an encouter with Baboons :P I have new respect for you THAT, was funny :D Thanks
#12 zombiegleemax Mar 04, 2005 18:51:14	Unfortunately, there isn't much on Myron (his name has been "stricken from the books" so to speak), so you are unlimited in what you create. It is known that he lost his urge to scorch trolls and fell from Rajaat's grace, leading him to be killed and replaced by Hamanu. He was a champion, so he was undoubtably powerful, but beyond that, not much is known. In Rise and Fall of a Dragon King there is a description of Myron being killed by Hamanu who sucks him dry absorbing his memories and power. Chapter 10 if you are interested.
#13 dawnstealer Mar 04, 2005 22:42:36	Oh, I've read it and it's been discussed ad nauseum on these boards. Also discussed is the fact that Libbey was cut off from the DS creators, so the information in that book is conjecture on her part rather than canon. I'll rephrase: There's nothing canon on Myron other than he was the first troll scorcher and he was replaced by Hamanu when he dropped from Rajaat's favor.
#14 nytcrawlr Mar 04, 2005 22:49:37	Where's that hunting cactus with a cape again? Just saw him messing around the other day....odd little fellow.
#15 dawnstealer Mar 05, 2005 2:19:39	Ah, yes: Doomspike. Still haven't drawn that one up, yet.
#16 zombiegleemax Mar 06, 2005 3:05:55	Oh, I've read it and it's been discussed ad nauseum on these boards. Also discussed is the fact that Libbey was cut off from the DS creators, so the information in that book is conjecture on her part rather than canon. I'll rephrase: There's nothing canon on Myron other than he was the first troll scorcher and he was replaced by Hamanu when he dropped from Rajaat's favor. Intelligent and logical conjecture, but yes it is all technically non canon. A shame really, there are so many great ideas in there.