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#1lyricMar 03, 2005 17:53:11 | Ok, I don't know if I should place these thoughts here or in the Psionics section but I think this is best... I've been thinking of maybe adding a few powers to the Psions list for Kreen Psions, after all, with different physiology they should have access to powers unique to them don't you think?? Some powers could be double useable, by other races, but would be slightly modified I'd think. One idea, is a variation on the old 2e power, Carapace, which gave a non chitinous character, an exoskeleton, very hard, very good armor; drawback was, it would rip off much of a characters skin at the end of the power when the carapace fell off, causing a lot of damage. I don't mind that use of it, but I was thinking perhaps a thri-kreen character, could modify that power, to replace and heal damaged portions of his own exoskeleton. Perhaps even make it temporarily harder. Ok, thought two, also based off a 2e power, Hive mind, that should be part of a thri-kreen's arsenal. It granted bonus PSP's to a character based on the number of insects in an area, the more evolved they were and the bigger the number, the better the result. Good power Ok, new thought, how about a variation on an insects body? Granting a thri-kreen (and there may be powers that could already do this, but the flavor is very kreenish) the ability to shape a pair of it's arms into something rather scyth-like, resembling certain other insectoids that I can't recall the name of. Or, how about granting wings?? I'm sure they could handle that. perhaps an expansion on the animal afinity power? (did that power change much from 2e??) granting effects from various insect races to a thri-kreen character, perhaps the ability to produce a venom, or poisoned needles that can be injected and left in an apponent, or fly, or the weapon idea discussed (to solve the above), or even the ability to make those abdomen pods of theirs glow?? (hey, it could be useful with the right flicker it might attract potential pray, it would certainly mess with what most pc's expect from a kreen :P) So, what do you think?? Like the ideas? don't like them?? Got any ideas of your own?? (this is what I get for reading that thread on kreens :P) |
#2lyricMar 05, 2005 4:12:47 | gosh guys, I'm hurt, not a single posting?? I know it's only been a day, but sheesh :P Am I the only Kreen Psionicist fan? :P |
#3jon_oracle_of_athasMar 05, 2005 10:35:09 | Ok, I'll toss in a couple of bits. First, I agree that kreen could have some unique psionic traditions partly due to physiology, but also psychology (tikchak and tokchak mentality). However, I think the way to implement this is through a prestige class with unique class features, and a name suggestion is Chakak (kreen word for psionicist). |
#4lyricMar 05, 2005 13:19:00 | now that's an idea I hadn't considered, I like that thought, and being a PrC makes it even easier to restrict abilities to that race and streamline them to fit a certain theme... great idea any thoughts on building such a class? |
#5lurking_shadowMar 05, 2005 14:40:12 | Quite some time ago, Brax posted a rough draft of several Kreen PrCs, including at least two with psionic powers:= Tekchakak = Of course, these are unfinished 3.0 drafts, but they are quite good. |
#6soel_griffinMar 08, 2005 0:59:18 | Psionic powers and or feats based on different race/culture psychology and especially physiology, make perfect sense. I like your ideas, Lyric. |
#7lyricMar 08, 2005 5:01:24 | Psionic powers and or feats based on different race/culture psychology and especially physiology, make perfect sense. I like your ideas, Lyric. thanks I'll try to keep them coming it would be useful to have some input from people, like different circumstances their kreen pc's go through (since in this thread I'll keep things kreen specific, though I might expand things to include the Aaracokra). The difficulties that Kreen face might be used to germinate certain psionic powers. Also, if someone were bored enough to do some research on various insect abilities (burrowing, flying, habbits, mentality, unique abilities, etc) that could spawn a whole list of powers. As for some of the above powers (from my original thread) perhaps a cosmetic revamping of old 2e or existing 3e powers could work out? Perhaps the Bear Claw power could be revamped to grant the scyths I mentioned. Disolving Touch could be used with the kreen bite attack. Create Sound could be used to create a sort of cricket chirping only the creen can hear and understand. Powers like Astral Steed could be replaced with Astral Wings, granting the same mobility. Perhaps a special feat / power could be made for thri-kreen combining the Ectoplasmic Cacoon power and other powers like, Metamorphosis, Suspend Life, Cameleon, or Adapt Body, and grant them a semi-permanent effect (penalties could apply, but its still a good idea) It could be like making a scroll or better yet a wand, single power, many uses before recharge. Use of the Incarnate power may be required, at DM's option. How about a power allowing several kreen to join minds in a pack hive mentality simply for defence?? granting the whole unit enhanced protection from mental assault? Well, that's all I have for now, I'll look around more later. and see what I can come up with. I think in the case of the kreen, Psionics could, and should be one of their most potent advantages. |
#8psiseveredheadMar 09, 2005 14:40:24 | Ok, I don't know if I should place these thoughts here or in the Psionics section but I think this is best... I seem to recall Thri-kreen of Athas saying this would simply kill the thri-kreen. Ok, thought two, also based off a 2e power, Hive mind, that should be part of a thri-kreen's arsenal. It granted bonus PSP's to a character based on the number of insects in an area, the more evolved they were and the bigger the number, the better the result. Good power Too bad it can't be balanced though. You spend power points to gain more power points? It's useless if you end up with fewer power points and broken if you end up with more. My suggestion is to change the nature of the power. Let it create a psychic link between the kreen and the other bugs, enabling them to share attack and AC bonuses. Ok, new thought, how about a variation on an insects body? Granting a thri-kreen (and there may be powers that could already do this, but the flavor is very kreenish) the ability to shape a pair of it's arms into something rather scyth-like, resembling certain other insectoids that I can't recall the name of. Or, how about granting wings?? I'm sure they could handle that. That would be cool! perhaps an expansion on the animal afinity power? (did that power change much from 2e??) granting effects from various insect races to a thri-kreen character, perhaps the ability to produce a venom, or poisoned needles that can be injected and left in an apponent, or fly, or the weapon idea discussed (to solve the above), or even the ability to make those abdomen pods of theirs glow?? (hey, it could be useful with the right flicker it might attract potential pray, it would certainly mess with what most pc's expect from a kreen :P) It did, as in it was split up into a large number of powers as animal affinity in 2e wasn't particularly balanced. There is a power like that in 3e, but it just boosts your stats a little. About that PrC, that makes a great psychic warrior PrC. Please do not call it a Tekchakak however - that term is for psions. A thri-kreen psychic warrior is probably a Tik-Tik. |
#9murkafMar 10, 2005 7:16:42 | Ok, thought two, also based off a 2e power, Hive mind, that should be part of a thri-kreen's arsenal. It granted bonus PSP's to a character based on the number of insects in an area, the more evolved they were and the bigger the number, the better the result. Good power Too bad it can't be balanced though. You spend power points to gain more power points? It's useless if you end up with fewer power points and broken if you end up with more. To keep the spirit of that power, it could be a Psionic FEAT... Prerequisite: Vermin. |
#10lyricMar 10, 2005 18:46:32 | To keep the spirit of that power, it could be a Psionic FEAT... I could live with that idea, this one would simply allow the sharing of psp's, kind of like a minor variant of that other power existing, that allows the shared use of powers known by the users? (and I think that also granted additional psp's) only, in this case, its' only use is to amplify psp's known.. we could even make the feat useable among those with the same feat, but that kinda defeats the purpose. |
#11jon_oracle_of_athasMar 11, 2005 11:44:01 | Kreen aren't vermin, they're monstrous humanoids. |
#12jon_oracle_of_athasMar 11, 2005 11:45:27 | A thri-kreen psychic warrior is probably a Tik-Tik. The original Tik-Tik had nothing to do with psionics IIRC. |
#13psiseveredheadMar 13, 2005 11:43:01 | The original Tik-Tik had nothing to do with psionics IIRC. And the tekchakak had nothing to do with fighting (eg it wasn't a psychic warrior). There was nothing preventing a Tik-Tik from being psychic. After all, half of thri-kreen already were. |
#14lyricMar 14, 2005 15:15:49 | don't forget, this is athas, all thri-kreen are psychic.. some just study the Way is all.. |
#15jon_oracle_of_athasMar 15, 2005 1:06:22 | And the tekchakak had nothing to do with fighting (eg it wasn't a psychic warrior). Since when did it get anything to do with fighting? There's certainly nothing in Brax's suggestion pointing in that direction. |
#16psiseveredheadMar 17, 2005 12:46:18 | Since when did it get anything to do with fighting? There's certainly nothing in Brax's suggestion pointing in that direction. What do you call Kyorkcha proficiency? There's a big difference between a tekchakak and a Kiltektet (though you could be both). |
#17lyricMar 17, 2005 21:57:53 | I have no idea what you guys are talking about, is this stuff from the kreen's of athas book? (which I haven't yet read) |