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#1 Charles_Phipps Mar 09, 2005 1:05:44	I'm perversely fond of Coryn the Head of the White Robes and I'm beginning to wonder why she's so unfond of. Maybe its just her outfit on the cover mixed with an appreciation of wide eyed innocents. There's certainly the question of her having been given a great deal on a silver platter but destiny seems to be a large theme in the stories of the Krynn. Her helping with the liberation of Solamnia has also made me soften a great deal to the character given she's actually accomplishing stuff and her name isn't Majere. Frankly, Ulin was just a cheap copy of his father Palin and I never much cared for him. I'm thinking that Coryn should be about thirteenth level as a Wizard around the time of Solamnia and 9th level around the beginning of her Ephiphany. There's a feat that allows wizards to cast spells without having read them and she obviously has that. (I personally think Dalamar made some misassumptions and she intially learned most of her spells from her grandmother's spellbook or through sorcery since the spells are the same...just acquired differently) What say you?
#2 Dragonhelm Mar 09, 2005 7:15:11	I'm perversely fond of Coryn the Head of the White Robes and I'm beginning to wonder why she's so unfond of. Maybe its just her outfit on the cover mixed with an appreciation of wide eyed innocents. I'm with ya, Charles. And despite obvious...perks to the outfit, the thing I really like is that it isn't the standardized wizard robes. It has an individualistic flair. There's certainly the question of her having been given a great deal on a silver platter but destiny seems to be a large theme in the stories of the Krynn. Call that literary license. Her helping with the liberation of Solamnia has also made me soften a great deal to the character given she's actually accomplishing stuff and her name isn't Majere. I, for one, am glad to see some new blood. Give her time, and I think she'll develop nicely. Of course, with that pic from Wizards' Conclave, I would say she's already nicely developed. :inlove: Frankly, Ulin was just a cheap copy of his father Palin and I never much cared for him. Had they developed the dragon mage side of him, he may have been so much more. I'm thinking that Coryn should be about thirteenth level as a Wizard around the time of Solamnia and 9th level around the beginning of her Ephiphany. There's a feat that allows wizards to cast spells without having read them and she obviously has that. I would say she has the spellcasting prodigy and brew potion feats, the latter based on the events in Wizards' Conclave as well as her character profile on the WotC site. Cam also suggested magical aptitude on this thread on the DL.com boards. EDIT: Don't forget Martial Weapon Proficiency (Shortbow). At least I'm assuming it was a shortbow. Not sure on her levels yet.
#3 zombiegleemax Mar 10, 2005 6:39:33	Frankly, Ulin was just a cheap copy of his father Palin and I never much cared for him. I think Ulin had potential. Became Dragon-Mage and all, but he hasn't been used!!! One of those heroes that just don't have adventures... I'm thinking that Coryn should be about thirteenth level as a Wizard around the time of Solamnia and 9th level around the beginning of her Ephiphany. There's a feat that allows wizards to cast spells without having read them and she obviously has that. 9th level - at age of 16! Sounds maybe little too tough. But true, she seems to be just perfect with magic. Is she actually now the YOUNGEST wizard ever to take the test?
#4 Charles_Phipps Mar 10, 2005 12:59:25	I think Ulin had potential. Became Dragon-Mage and all, but he hasn't been used!!! One of those heroes that just don't have adventures... True, but the author of the Linsha Trilogy says he's currently forsaken magic for technology and invention. It seems to have become a bit of a habit with his family. 9th level - at age of 16! Sounds maybe little too tough. But true, she seems to be just perfect with magic. Is she actually now the YOUNGEST wizard ever to take the test? I could be mistaken but she cast teleport, and that pretty much guarantees she is. It would appear that she is at present. The statement was that she was supposed to be something akin to Mozart and a prodigy with it. I can certainly buy this personally. I also like the fact that she's actively aiding the Knights of Solmania and a bit 'down to earth.' She is a bit jealous though.
#5 Dragonhelm Mar 15, 2005 23:47:44	Okay, here's some general thoughts on feats: 1st - Spellcasting Prodigy 1st - Martial Weapon Prof (Shortbow) 1st (Wizard) - Scribe Scroll 3rd - Spell Focus (Divination) 5th (Wizard) - Brew Potion. 6th - Either Magical Aptitude or Spell Mastery What I find difficult are her levels. She begins her story as a spellcasting prodigy (which can only be taken at 1st level) and with Martial Weapon Prof. (Shortbow). So that would mean that in order to meet the requirements of the WoHS PrC and to get all the feats in, she would be a wizard 5/WoHS ?. She could have taken the Test, yet waited a level before actually taking on WoHS levels. So that works. Does anyone have a list of spells that she casted? Any ideas on ability scores? Obviously, a high Int. Decent Cha, due to sorcerer abilities and her personality. What else?
#6 Charles_Phipps Mar 15, 2005 23:56:34	Remember, that she's a Sorceress for the most part of her life. Hence, she might be a very powerful one at the start. Her "spellcasting prodigy" aspect doesn't necessarily need to TOTALLY reflect the rules because even stories don't do that the rules just REFLECT the stories.
#7 cam_banks Mar 16, 2005 4:06:36	5th (Wizard) - Brew Potion. 6th - Either Magical Aptitude or Spell Mastery Does she demonstrate the brewing of potions in Wizard's Conclave or Lord of the Rose? Coryn seems more likely to take metamagic feats than item creation feats. Also, Magical Aptitude isn't really necessary given that she has Spellcasting Prodigy - it's a bonus to Spellcraft and Use Magic Device, the latter of which she probably hasn't got since it's neither a sorcerer nor wizard class skill. Spell Mastery makes more sense, but it's a wizard-only feat so she'd have to have taken it after her epiphany. What I find difficult are her levels. She begins her story as a spellcasting prodigy (which can only be taken at 1st level) and with Martial Weapon Prof. (Shortbow). So that would mean that in order to meet the requirements of the WoHS PrC and to get all the feats in, she would be a wizard 5/WoHS ? As Charles says, her epiphany could have happened at any time so she only needs to qualify for the WoHS prestige class when that happens. She might not even have very many levels in the class, either. Your other option, rather than to take the Martial Weapon Proficiency feat, is to go with a level in ranger or rogue. Each supplies the feat as a bonus feat anyway, contributes a large number of useful skills she demonstrates, and although it doesn't help with her effective caster level it would better reflect that she's capable in the wild as a youth. Cheers, Cam
#8 Dragonhelm Mar 16, 2005 9:19:55	Does she demonstrate the brewing of potions in Wizard's Conclave or Lord of the Rose? Coryn seems more likely to take metamagic feats than item creation feats. Her character profile from WotC's site specifically says that she's into brewing potions (towards the bottom). Otherwise, I'd go with a metamagic feat. Also, Magical Aptitude isn't really necessary given that she has Spellcasting Prodigy - it's a bonus to Spellcraft and Use Magic Device, the latter of which she probably hasn't got since it's neither a sorcerer nor wizard class skill. Spell Mastery makes more sense, but it's a wizard-only feat so she'd have to have taken it after her epiphany. That's what I was thinking. As Charles says, her epiphany could have happened at any time so she only needs to qualify for the WoHS prestige class when that happens. She might not even have very many levels in the class, either. What I'm having a hard time figuring out is what level she would be. She's a "magical Mozart" as well as the head of the White Robes, so I would think she'd advance fairly quickly in level. At the same time, she's fairly young and not all that experienced. Does 9th level sound about right? Your other option, rather than to take the Martial Weapon Proficiency feat, is to go with a level in ranger or rogue. Each supplies the feat as a bonus feat anyway, contributes a large number of useful skills she demonstrates, and although it doesn't help with her effective caster level it would better reflect that she's capable in the wild as a youth. On the ranger, does she show wild empathy or favored enemy abilities? I guess I could see monstrous humanoids as her favored enemy due to the thanoi. Rogue...not sure. I don't see her using sneak attack or trapfinding.