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Question about Vanya/Petra

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#1
zombiegleemax
Mar 17, 2005 3:58:33 Was reading through the description of Petra in WotI last night, and it states that Vanya was her sponsor. This seems to be illogical to me for two reasons:

1) Petra would have started on her quest for immortality before Vanya was alive (Vanya being captured by a expanding Milenian Empire, which was formed from teh remnants of fleeing Traldars). I'm assuming around two to three hundred years here.

2) Even if Vanya could have gone back and acted before her time, why would she do so to sponsor an Immortal patron of the Empire that captured and enslaved her as a mortal, and is now an implacable enemy of?

Does anyone have a rational get out from this, or just switch Petra's sponsor to someone else?

Mark
#2
zombiegleemax
Mar 17, 2005 4:48:54 Yes mah9, it IS illogical! It's one of the big glitches that came out with WotI.

You've got 2 possible solutions here:

1. Simplest: change Petra's sponsor to somebody else in the sphere of Time (most likely Khoronus, of whom she was prolly a cleric)

2. Hardest and weirdest: Petra traveled forward in time by accident went so far in the future to actually find Vanya already ascended to immortality. Vanya took a liking in her and helped her to find her way back in her timeframe, sponsoring her to immortality. Unfortunately, what Vanya didn't know was that Petra was an ancestor of the people that enslaved her, and when she found out in her time, after becoming an immortal, she got angered and sworn revenge to Petra and her clique.
Pretty convoluted uh?

Anyway, I go with nr 1. ;)
For your sanity, please do the same :P
#3
agathokles
Mar 17, 2005 9:04:27
1. Simplest: change Petra's sponsor to somebody else in the sphere of Time (most likely Khoronus, of whom she was prolly a cleric)

Indeed, considering that Vanya and Petra are not on good terms, solution 2 doesn't seem as good as solution 1. Using Khoronus (who could have been an old Traladaran patron, given the name) seems fine to me.
#4
zombiegleemax
Mar 17, 2005 13:09:28 It wouldn't surprise me at all if the patrons were printed "in reverse". I could see Petra sponsoring Vanya and Khoronus sponsoring Petra. Once Vanya becomes immortal she learns Petra was the ancestor of the Milenians and their relationship becomes cold.
#5
zombiegleemax
Mar 17, 2005 13:18:06 You could also do a reverse of #2 above and say that after Vanya became immortal she went back in time and sponsored Petra then returned to her own time to find out that Petra's descendants were the Milenians Vanya had ran from and hence the coldness. Given some of the other time immortals' backgrounds this is wierd enough to fit. Hell given they are both of time it wouldn't be too far fetched if somehow they sponsored each other. After all, Khoronus probably sponsored himself.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Mar 17, 2005 3:58:33	Was reading through the description of Petra in WotI last night, and it states that Vanya was her sponsor. This seems to be illogical to me for two reasons: 1) Petra would have started on her quest for immortality before Vanya was alive (Vanya being captured by a expanding Milenian Empire, which was formed from teh remnants of fleeing Traldars). I'm assuming around two to three hundred years here. 2) Even if Vanya could have gone back and acted before her time, why would she do so to sponsor an Immortal patron of the Empire that captured and enslaved her as a mortal, and is now an implacable enemy of? Does anyone have a rational get out from this, or just switch Petra's sponsor to someone else? Mark
#2 zombiegleemax Mar 17, 2005 4:48:54	Yes mah9, it IS illogical! It's one of the big glitches that came out with WotI. You've got 2 possible solutions here: 1. Simplest: change Petra's sponsor to somebody else in the sphere of Time (most likely Khoronus, of whom she was prolly a cleric) 2. Hardest and weirdest: Petra traveled forward in time by accident went so far in the future to actually find Vanya already ascended to immortality. Vanya took a liking in her and helped her to find her way back in her timeframe, sponsoring her to immortality. Unfortunately, what Vanya didn't know was that Petra was an ancestor of the people that enslaved her, and when she found out in her time, after becoming an immortal, she got angered and sworn revenge to Petra and her clique. Pretty convoluted uh? Anyway, I go with nr 1. ;) For your sanity, please do the same :P
#3 agathokles Mar 17, 2005 9:04:27	1. Simplest: change Petra's sponsor to somebody else in the sphere of Time (most likely Khoronus, of whom she was prolly a cleric) Indeed, considering that Vanya and Petra are not on good terms, solution 2 doesn't seem as good as solution 1. Using Khoronus (who could have been an old Traladaran patron, given the name) seems fine to me.
#4 zombiegleemax Mar 17, 2005 13:09:28	It wouldn't surprise me at all if the patrons were printed "in reverse". I could see Petra sponsoring Vanya and Khoronus sponsoring Petra. Once Vanya becomes immortal she learns Petra was the ancestor of the Milenians and their relationship becomes cold.
#5 zombiegleemax Mar 17, 2005 13:18:06	You could also do a reverse of #2 above and say that after Vanya became immortal she went back in time and sponsored Petra then returned to her own time to find out that Petra's descendants were the Milenians Vanya had ran from and hence the coldness. Given some of the other time immortals' backgrounds this is wierd enough to fit. Hell given they are both of time it wouldn't be too far fetched if somehow they sponsored each other. After all, Khoronus probably sponsored himself.