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#1 dave_l Mar 17, 2005 5:35:46	I've just been reading through my Five Shires ESD, and read that on the back of the map there are descriptions of all the clans, plus the clan symbols (which are very important to the Hin). I vaguely remember this from when I had a hard copy, but can't remember any details. Lo and behold - no scans of the back of the map! Does anyone know if the descriptions have been posted anywhere, or whether the symbols are available to view or download? These missing pages on ESD's are a right pain! Any help will be much appreciated!
#2 gazza555 Mar 17, 2005 6:00:14	I too have the same problem and it's putting me off buying more ESD's. The Five Shires is the only GAZ that I didn't buy at the time. Does anyone have a list of the ESD's available and what (if anything) is missing from each? Gary
#3 Mortepierre Mar 17, 2005 6:08:02	I've just been reading through my Five Shires ESD, and read that on the back of the map there are descriptions of all the clans, plus the clan symbols (which are very important to the Hin). I vaguely remember this from when I had a hard copy, but can't remember any details. Lo and behold - no scans of the back of the map! Does anyone know if the descriptions have been posted anywhere, or whether the symbols are available to view or download? These missing pages on ESD's are a right pain! Any help will be much appreciated! Are you certain about that? I just took a look at my (paper) copy of the Five Shires and there is absolutely nothing on the back of the map. Or do I happen to have a rare edition with the clan symbols missing?
#4 havard Mar 17, 2005 6:18:06	I've just been reading through my Five Shires ESD, and read that on the back of the map there are descriptions of all the clans, plus the clan symbols (which are very important to the Hin). I vaguely remember this from when I had a hard copy, but can't remember any details. Lo and behold - no scans of the back of the map! Does anyone know if the descriptions have been posted anywhere, or whether the symbols are available to view or download? These missing pages on ESD's are a right pain! Any help will be much appreciated! Hi David, the clan descriptions/symbols were supposed to be included, but never actually were. Later, there were plans of including this in an issue of polyhedron, but AFAIK, that never happened either. I compiled a list of the clans mentioned in the gaz and their clan holdings, which can be foundhere. I never got around to making symbols for them though :P Actually, we might go back to the Lalor symbols listed in the player's guide and assign one to each clan... Håvard
#5 spellweaver Mar 17, 2005 8:36:48	Are you certain about that? I just took a look at my (paper) copy of the Five Shires and there is absolutely nothing on the back of the map. Or do I happen to have a rare edition with the clan symbols missing? Aren't any in my paper copy either... :-) Jesper
#6 gazza555 Mar 17, 2005 8:47:32	Aren't any in my paper copy either... :-) Jesper Good! - Looks like I'm not missing anything after all But a list of what's missing from other ESD's would be handy. For example I presume that the audio cd tracks (from the 2nd Ed stuff) are not included as mp3's. :D Gary
#7 dave_l Mar 17, 2005 9:46:01	Oops, should check my facts before making accusations! Thanks for the list, Havard. Shame they didn't mention the other 5 clans in the Gaz. It's a shame they didn't bother with the descriptions either - it would have added extra "colour" to a character's background. Now I massage the old brain cells, I do remember going back to the shop with a complaint about the map, and being told "tough"!