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#1 mordo Mar 24, 2005 12:08:51	I was reading Oerth Journal 15 recently and got interested in their Old Faith Bard PrC. I really liked the concept of a diplomatic emissary for the druidic communauty (I started playing D&D in the late 90's, so I haven't know the bard from earlier works), been trained into warfare and subterfuge before gaining any druidic tutelage. But I was stupefied to see, that in order to reach the top of the organisation you had to pass trough a 23 level prestige class I tried do bring back the Old Faith Bard PrC to a more usual 10 level progression Old Faith Bard Description: I don't think I could do better than the fluff from OJ15 so I'll refer to it for the PrC description Hit Die: d6 Requirements: Alignment: must have a neutral on at least one axis (LN,NG,N,NE,CN) Base Attack Bonus: +8 Skills: Decipher script 6 ranks, Diplomacy 6 ranks, Hide 6 ranks, Knowledge (any) 6 ranks, Listen 6 ranks, Move Silently 6 ranks, Perform 6 ranks Races: Human, Half-Elf Special: Must have the Evasion extraordinary ability Class Skills: as Bard Class Features Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Old Faith Bard gain no proficiency with weapon or armor. Also an Old Faith Bard wearing an armor heavier than light may be affected by spell faillure as per arcane spell caster because these armor restrain the dexterity the Old Faith Bard need to play the musical instrument required as somatic components Level Base Att. Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Special Spell per Day 0 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 1st +0 +0 +2 +2 Bardic music, bardic knowledge, countersong, fascinate, bardic cant 0* - - - - 2nd +1 +0 +3 +3 Nature sense 2 - - - - 3rd +2 +1 +3 +3 Suggestion 3 0* - - - 4th +3 +1 +4 +4 Resist nature's lure 3 1 - - - 5th +3 +1 +4 +4 Wild shape (1/day) 3 2 0* - - 6th +4 +2 +5 +5 Song of freedom 3 3 1 - - 7th +5 +2 +5 +5 Wild shape (2/day) 3 3 2 0* - 8th +6/+1 +2 +6 +6 Venom immunity 3 3 3 1 - 9th +6/+1 +3 +6 +6 Mass suggestion 3 3 3 2 0* 10th +7/+2 +3 +7 +7 A thousand faces 3 3 3 3 1 Bardic Cant see OJ15 Every other abilities are as those from the Bard and the Druid in PHB 3.5 The only thing I have to figure out is how to link every Bardic college to the advancement. Any thought are welcome P.S. sorry for the horrible formating of the table, it my first attempt for such and honestly, I'm far from good at posting
#2 Amaril Mar 24, 2005 14:05:24	I thought that's what the Fochlucan Lyrist was with the exception of visiting other colleges throughout the progression. Edit: I think the link broke: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050107a&page=2
#3 mordo Mar 25, 2005 7:39:38	I thought that's what the Fochlucan Lyrist was with the exception of visiting other colleges throughout the progression. I don't think the Fochlucan Lyrist reach the Old Faith Bard as presented in OJ15, or 1st edition Bard. It's more like an Bard/Druid multi-class instead of an emissary/spy for a druidic organisation, as I see the role played by the Old Faith Bard.
#4 Amaril Mar 25, 2005 8:07:35	Ahh, I see what you mean. I think they can work well together as different roles for the same organization.