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#1 Pennarin May 05, 2005 4:54:33	1. Does the Myrmeleon's Disguise Taint ability hide the Leech or Arch Defiler's Tainted Aura? 2. Is there a synergy for characters that have Tainted Aura from both classes?
#2 murkaf May 13, 2005 13:14:00	From the Elite Sniper description Ranged Sneak Attack: Any time a target would be denied its Dexterity bonus, the elite sniper’s ranged attacks inflict the listed additional damage dice. This stacks with Sneak Attack from other classes. 3. Is this intended to work as a Rogue's Sneak Attack (limited to 30 feet)? Or does it apply to anything the Sniper can hit?
#3 jon_oracle_of_athas May 14, 2005 12:03:02	Does the Myrmeleon's Disguise Taint ability hide the Leech or Arch Defiler's Tainted Aura? No, it just wards against the defiler scent spell. 2. Is there a synergy for characters that have Tainted Aura from both classes? I'm considering renaming the Leech's Tainted Aura and making them stackable.
#4 jon_oracle_of_athas May 14, 2005 12:05:01	3. Is this intended to work as a Rogue's Sneak Attack (limited to 30 feet)? Or does it apply to anything the Sniper can hit? A good question. I'd rule that it applies to anything the Sniper can hit. Some of the point of being a sniper, IMO, is to be able to take someone out at a distance with one or two shots. 30 feet simply doesn't do it for me.
#5 ruhl-than_sage May 14, 2005 12:16:30	A good question. I'd rule that it applies to anything the Sniper can hit. Some of the point of being a sniper, IMO, is to be able to take someone out at a distance with one or two shots. 30 feet simply doesn't do it for me. Some limit on the range would be, I can't see a sniper killing someone from half a mile away. They wouldn't even be able to see where their vital spots are. Perhaps a single range increment would be appropriate, thats still 100ft for a Longbow and 60ft for a shortbow.
#6 jon_oracle_of_athas May 15, 2005 6:25:37	Some limit on the range would be, I can't see a sniper killing someone from half a mile away. They wouldn't even be able to see where their vital spots are. Perhaps a single range increment would be appropriate, thats still 100ft for a Longbow and 60ft for a shortbow. Good suggestion. One range increment. I'll add that.
#7 jon_oracle_of_athas May 15, 2005 10:44:38	"Ranged Sneak Attack: Any time a target would be denied its Dexterity bonus, the elite sniper’s ranged attacks inflict the listed additional damage dice. This stacks with Sneak Attack from other classes, but unlike Sneak Attack, Ranged Sneak Attack applies up to 30 feet or one range increment (whichever is higher)."
#8 star_gazer_02 May 15, 2005 23:12:13	Black Cassock: Has Secular Authority as a class feature as well as a class requirement. Recomendation: Remove Secular Authority as a class feature. Cerulean: Blue Lens Focus stops giving additional hp of damage past 750 Cp. Some spell components cost far more than that. Recommendation: Damage should scale with cost at an additional 5hp per 450 Cp. Chasseur: Class Level table is misplaced. Draqoman Odd use of 'Dune Trader' under the heading Contact. Recommendation: Change to either 'employer' or, more appropriately, 'Draqoman', as it is /his/ contact. Dune Trader: Distributive Bargainaing, the listing Other: unfairly penalizes players who want to start their own Merchant houses, amongst others. Recommendation: Change to +1 to skill of choice if other than one of those listed above, otherwise, +2. Allies: Impose a maximum value of 1,000 Cp to the favor in any case. Elven Singer: Class Table is misplaced. This happens several times in the succeeding pages. Grove Master: Timeless Body: I could be wrong but I think that magical aging has been removed from the game. Halfling Protector: Ancestral Guidance: protector should be protectors. Ascestral Insight: same. Jaguar Knight: Smoking Mirror: 'repeatedly painful' is awkward phrasing, eliminate repeatedly. Psionic Monk: Replace with full monk 20 lvl class which is entirely equivalent and better fleshed out. Exchange Monk class flavor text with this and you will have gotten this right. Shadow Templar: Remove, a carefully created character can achieve 9th level spells by 15th level. The Special requirements are roleplaying factors and cannot be used as mitigating circumstances. Shadow Wizard is both more appropriate and more balanced. Soulknife: Remove, the core class is better and more appropriate. Comes across as peevishness. The core rules are not there for us to disregard because we have personal problems with them. Feel free to limit Soulknife in your particular games, however it is neither professional or appropriate to do so in official material. Veiled One: Use the Cooperative Casting feat from Tome and Blood instead of Twinned Casting.This is a lesser duplication of effort. Wife of Nibenay: Seductress: The wife of Nibenay can /appeal/ to the basic... not apply.
#9 murkaf May 20, 2005 10:30:23	Soulknife: Remove, the core class is better and more appropriate. Comes across as peevishness. The core rules are not there for us to disregard because we have personal problems with them. Feel free to limit Soulknife in your particular games, however it is neither professional or appropriate to do so in official material. Or include it as a variant.
#10 jon_oracle_of_athas May 20, 2005 19:40:50	Soulknife: Remove, the core class is better and more appropriate. Comes across as peevishness. The core rules are not there for us to disregard because we have personal problems with them. Feel free to limit Soulknife in your particular games, however it is neither professional or appropriate to do so in official material. It's not my personal opinion, it's a solution that respects both those who want to include the class and those who don't. Your subjective views of professionalism and appropriateness aren't constructive. The soulknife isn't part of the core rules, it's a core class in a rules expansion book - major difference. I see little point in kicking this dead kank further. I'm not going to step on the toes of those who don't want the class in DS by shoehorning it in as a core class, just as I won't step on the toes of those who want it by excluding it entirely. Both camps have provided well-reasoned arguments for their views. Neither is more correct, it all boils down to subjective opinions - and a prestige class is (from what I've gathered) acceptable to the majority. Where that path went to being unprofessional and inappropriate is beyond my grasp.
#11 star_gazer_02 May 20, 2005 22:33:49	Soulknife and monk are arguments I'm going to hold off on until we update DS again. However, it's important to register my opinion on the matter as I'm well aware of the arguments against and still disagree. If anyone would like to know what they are, they are more than welcome to PM me.
#12 terminus_vortexa May 20, 2005 23:45:28	Was going to say something about the differing opinions on the Soulknife, but decided to hold my tongue. For the record, I think both have a place in DS.
#13 jon_oracle_of_athas May 21, 2005 10:52:47	Black Cassock: Has Secular Authority as a class feature as well as a class requirement. Recomendation: Remove Secular Authority as a class feature. Depends on how we decide to handle the Secular Authority mechanic. Cerulean: Blue Lens Focus stops giving additional hp of damage past 750 Cp. Some spell components cost far more than that. Recommendation: Damage should scale with cost at an additional 5hp per 450 Cp. Will consider this or other mechanic for this. Draqoman Odd use of 'Dune Trader' under the heading Contact. Recommendation: Change to either 'employer' or, more appropriately, 'Draqoman', as it is /his/ contact. Should be 'Draqoman'. Dune Trader: Distributive Bargainaing, the listing Other: unfairly penalizes players who want to start their own Merchant houses, amongst others. Recommendation: Change to +1 to skill of choice if other than one of those listed above, otherwise, +2. Freedom of choice comes at a price. Also, a new House wouldn't have the same reputation nor scale/training benefits of the larger existing houses. Allies: Impose a maximum value of 1,000 Cp to the favor in any case. Done. Grove Master: Timeless Body: I could be wrong but I think that magical aging has been removed from the game. Anyone have a definite answer to this one? Halfling Protector: Ancestral Guidance: protector should be protectors. Ascestral Insight: same. Corrected. Jaguar Knight: Smoking Mirror: 'repeatedly painful' is awkward phrasing, eliminate repeatedly. Done. Shadow Templar: Remove, a carefully created character can achieve 9th level spells by 15th level. The Special requirements are roleplaying factors and cannot be used as mitigating circumstances. Shadow Wizard is both more appropriate and more balanced. Uses Ur-priest spell progression. Corresponds well with events in Dregoth Ascending. Veiled One: Use the Cooperative Casting feat from Tome and Blood instead of Twinned Casting.This is a lesser duplication of effort. Tome and Blood is not OGC. Wife of Nibenay: Seductress: The wife of Nibenay can /appeal/ to the basic... not apply. Heh, corrected.
#14 bengeldorn Sep 03, 2005 4:02:35	Do Templar Knight's class levels stack with fighter class levels, regarding Weapon Specialisation and Greater Weapon Specialisation?
#15 jon_oracle_of_athas Sep 03, 2005 8:29:57	Do Templar Knight's class levels stack with fighter class levels, regarding Weapon Specialisation and Greater Weapon Specialisation? No.
#16 Ramar_Aulinvox Sep 04, 2005 14:07:45	Do psionic monks get there wisdom modifier added to their AC? If not, why?
#17 squidfur- Sep 10, 2005 19:25:02	Crowd Support (Ex): The crowd may love or loathe the arena champion, but regardless their presence motivates the arena champion, who enjoys a +1 morale bonus to attack and damage rolls whenever there are ten or more non-combatant spectators present. At 5th and 9th level this bonus increases, but the minimum amount of spectators must be fifty and one hundred respectively for the bonuses to take effect. In comparison, for those who have Complete Warrior: a character who finds himself in the arena, and succeeds in influencing the crowds attitude, gains a +2 morale bonus to attack and damage rolls. As there is no prerequisite crowd number, as well as this option being open to any and all classes, the Crowd Support ability of the Arena Champion seems rather tame. Granted, you don't have to make any check to get this bonus, and at 9th it improves to +3, but still makes me wonder if this shouldn't be beefed up a little.
#18 jon_oracle_of_athas Sep 11, 2005 7:52:53	Do psionic monks get there wisdom modifier added to their AC? If not, why? They don't, but maybe they should.
#19 Ramar_Aulinvox Sep 11, 2005 11:37:23	They don't, but maybe they should. Perhaps make it an insight bonus similar to duelists. Obtained at first level; "the psionic monk gains an insight bonus to her or his armor class when wearing no armor equal to her or his wisdom modifier, if positive. The insight bonus recieved may not exceed her or his psionic monk level." Another possibility, keeping with the flavor of the class, would be to limit the bonus to AC to when the psiionic monk is focused.
#20 jon_oracle_of_athas Sep 11, 2005 15:39:58	Another possibility, keeping with the flavor of the class, would be to limit the bonus to AC to when the psiionic monk is focused. Ufortunately, that also creates a barrier towards expending the focus for the use of other class abilities tied to the focus. That is something I want to avoid. Perhaps make it an insight bonus similar to duelists. Obtained at first level; "the psionic monk gains an insight bonus to her or his armor class when wearing no armor equal to her or his wisdom modifier, if positive. The insight bonus recieved may not exceed her or his psionic monk level." This option would be the one to go with. That's the entry from the Duelist, word by word, with relevant replacements?
#21 Grummore Sep 15, 2005 12:01:17	Shouldnt Eagle Knight and Jaguar Knight need the same requierement as Arrow Knight in term of having been trained by the Drajii army? One more comment : *How about doing classes with all these PrCs? I mean per example a class for these coming from the Tyr region, one for the Gulg region, one for the generic PrCs or else? Maybe put the fighters PrCs together, mages together, etc.. I dont know. Something that would made these easier to read through when you use a paper version and when choosing your PrC.
#22 Pennarin Sep 15, 2005 12:06:44	Grummore, such grouping is not found in other books with PrCs, and frankly people fast become accustomed with the characteristics of each PrC, so they just look at the index and go from there.
#23 Grummore Sep 15, 2005 12:17:08	Grummore, such grouping is not found in other books with PrCs, and frankly people fast become accustomed with the characteristics of each PrC, so they just look at the index and go from there. It is not in a sole book, but it is in several book : Complete warrior, complete divine, etc. These book all have PrCs that are interesting for the warriors classes. Since we wont have that much stuff, could still be a good idea to have these grouped.
#24 brun01 Sep 16, 2005 9:56:04	I think that the appendix could be inserted in the next release of the core rules... It would things lot easier
#25 Grummore Sep 17, 2005 22:03:29	Shouldnt Eagle Knight and Jaguar Knight need the same requierement as Arrow Knight in term of having been trained by the Drajii army? Jon, did you saw this?
#26 jon_oracle_of_athas Sep 23, 2005 18:32:40	Shouldnt Eagle Knight and Jaguar Knight need the same requierement as Arrow Knight in term of having been trained by the Draji army? Yes, agreed.