Not including what may come from Secrets of the Dead Lands, however.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7117/athas/
(old DS site)
But I'd rather the see Athas expanded through good story lines than an official map.
The whole planet? ...
Why should Athas be a planet?
Why wouldn't Athas be a flat plane (finite or infinite) or even a slightly curving plane?
While I like the idea of having a map covering an area larger than the 2nd E maps, I feel it's too restrictive to impose a planet size or even a world shape to Athas.
I have lots of ideas concerning this, but not enough time to elaborate. I will probably post something more complete in the following weeks or months.
Granted its not an offical "athas.org", map but its something to work with at the very least.
Why take away from that? I'd rather leave it the way it is, and let people come up with their own ideas.
On that note, I really dig the idea that beyond the Tyr region, it's all kreen. That's just too cool to pass up.
Any map of Athas should be as ambigous as possible, perhaps being a text map instead of a drawn one. Or the rest of Athas should remain uknown, as part of the mystery that is Dark Sun (unfortunately, the Dark Sun story has been shown, so there is little mystery left in the Tyr region, but other regions...).
BTW, according to leading Athasian experts, Athas is flat.
There shouldn't be any map of Athas, least it would become cannon and lead to an Athasian land grab by DMs by wanting to place all their ideas for regions in certain places. It would restrict DMs from being as creative as they may want to be.
Any map of Athas should be as ambigous as possible, perhaps being a text map instead of a drawn one. Or the rest of Athas should remain uknown, as part of the mystery that is Dark Sun (unfortunately, the Dark Sun story has been shown, so there is little mystery left in the Tyr region, but other regions...).
BTW, according to leading Athasian experts, Athas is flat.
I would love to see a detailed map of various regions without any specific locations and only vague descriptions, that way all the DMs who can't draw a good map can have one an fill in the blanks so to speak.
BTW, according to many leading Earth experts thoughout history, the Earth is Flat.
I would love to see a detailed map of various regions without any specific locations and only vague descriptions, that way all the DMs who can't draw a good map can have one an fill in the blanks so to speak.
Direction from the Tyr region is really all we need to go on.
Direction from the Tyr region is really all we need to go on.
hunh? Could you rephrase that, I don't understand?I did a map of the entire planet with Brax's input, but then decided that maybe this kind of information is better left up to individual GMs. I came up with a rather extensive "On the Far Side of the Silt Sea" bit, and so did Sysane. Both ideas are equally valid and good.
On that note, I really dig the idea that beyond the Tyr region, it's all kreen. That's just too cool to pass up.
gr8 ideas I agree with you for the most part the map was incredible and your drawings are impressive. I'd like to use them for my campaigns GR8 work
Scott
In that case, once I have an internet connection at home (next Thursday...hope, hope, hope), I'll send it off to you.
I'd really appreciate copies if you would'nt mind your work is incredible
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I did a map of the entire planet with Brax's input, but then decided that maybe this kind of information is better left up to individual GMs. I came up with a rather extensive "On the Far Side of the Silt Sea" bit, and so did Sysane. Both ideas are equally valid and good.
On that note, I really dig the idea that beyond the Tyr region, it's all kreen. That's just too cool to pass up.
I'd like to see the map, I did a lot of work with Brax on fleshing out ideas when working on the paintings from 'Distant Paths'.
Similarly, I'd like to see the whole region to the west of the Tablelands belonging to the kreen :D
Jon, etal. - do you have the monster pics you need? Can I start putting other stuff on my website?
I was thinking of redoing the map a little bit to make room for my Far Side project and to take into account the statement in the original Wanderer's Journal where he stated that the Ringing Mountains actually ringed the Sea of Silt - the Tyr region was just the Western side. This would suggest that the the Sea was truly a sea and not an open body of water with a continent on the other side.
of course, your the Dm of your game, so you could always trash the canon and change it for something else like I did with the Prism pentad event.
The Ringing mountain stop just north-west of the Tableland. How could it circle the sea of silt? Plus, there already a map by Brom (or is it Brax) about Athas;
(Image edited out so the Silly Frog doesn't get hit twice)
of course, your the Dm of your game, so you could always trash the canon and change it for something else like I did with the Prism pentad event.
Actually, it was neither. Brax was working with a guy who added his own little touches. It's a good map, but is a bit off in a few areas. Also, it's not canon and isn't based on canon materials - it's a guess and an attempt to simply make a bigger map.
This was made before Brax talked to some of the original designers and learned that the Tablelands were in the southern hemisphere. Also, it states in the Wanderer's Journal that the Ringing Mountains encircle the Sea of Silt.
The Ringing mountain stop just north-west of the Tableland. How could it circle the sea of silt? Plus, there already a map by Brom (or is it Brax) about Athas;
of course, your the Dm of your game, so you could always trash the canon and change it for something else like I did with the Prism pentad event.
This map and a Green Age map were painted using the maps from the second boxed set as a source of inspiration (see my Distant Paths site, back in 1998). I then worked with Brax to flesh out some ideas and a timeline using places around the map for the Green Age. Brax was doing 3d maps based on polygons and had done lots of his own map work, while working with others members of the DS list (amended). My maps were never ment to be canon, it was just an idea of how the world could have changed through time and to get an idea of scale and distance (especially of the kreen lands to the west of the Tablelands as was running an adventure in that direction).
It was also there to inspre work outside the Tyr region by anybody who was interested. The maps can be found in 'Visions of Athas' (the words say it all).
Hope this helps
This map and a Green Age map were painted using the maps from the second boxed set as a source of inspiration (see my Distant Paths site, back in 1998). I then worked with Brax to flesh out some ideas and a timeline using places around the map for the Green Age. Brax was doing 3d maps based on polygons and had done lots of his own map work, while working with others members of the DS list (amended). My maps were never ment to be canon, it was just an idea of how the world could have changed through time and to get an idea of scale and distance (especially of the kreen lands to the west of the Tablelands as was running an adventure in that direction).
It was also there to inspre work outside the Tyr region by anybody who was interested. The maps can be found in 'Visions of Athas' (the words say it all).
Hope this helps
Your link directs me to Microsoft's homepage, which is not the link itself, but it seems to be WoTC little notification that your site is not under their control.
Found your maps back in '99. I used a region of your maps for my Sundra Peninsula. I really didn't like using an already made base, since I do enjoy creating my own landmasses. However, I wanted some sort of context and instead of focusing on land mass, I focused on the fine details of the peninsula to make it as unique as the Tyr Region.
I left the map as fuzzy as possible for any detail to be worked out whenever. The only bit with signs of life is the kreen savannah, with their highways criss-crossing the landscape...
Great painting job, by the way. Ever think of redoing it with more up to date info?
Thanks!
Yes, frequently :D but I would rather that larger areas were worked out through official campaigns and updated areas (accepted by athas.org) to make that widely useful.