The guy that plays Magneto in the X-men movie and the wizard in Lord of the rings, Ian something will probably be either Fizban, Par-Salion, or Fistdantantalous
In fact, I'd avoid using any actors and actresses from the LOTR films. A DL film should have its own unique cast.
Christopher Lee is waaaay too serious to be Fizban, in my view at least.
There are already enough comparisons between the two, lets not add on the whole cast of characters too. I suppose Frodo would make a great Tas....
There are already enough comparisons between the two, lets not add on the whole cast of characters too. I suppose Frodo would make a great Tas....
I don't think I'd agree with it...but Elijah Wood was the prime candidate (ie, an on-line poll thingy) for Tas long before LotR came about.
Personally...for Tas, I'd want John Leguizamo as Tas. He's a good actor, and he just has that mischievous look about him. Plus, his face...I think he just kind of looks like Tas.
Christopher Lloyd (Back to the Future) would be the perfect Fizban.
I was just going to suggest that.
For some reason I have in my head Clive Owen as Gilthanas and Aishwarya Rai (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0706787/) as Silvara
For some reason I have in my head Clive Owen as Gilthanas and Aishwarya Rai (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0706787/) as Silvara
Holy cow. What's she been in that I would know her from?
Cheers,
Cam
Holy cow. What's she been in that I would know her from?
Lots of Bollywood stuff. The only one I'm familiar with (which isn't even truly Bollywood) is Bride and Prejudice, by the director of Bend It Like Beckham.
For some reason I have in my head Clive Owen as Gilthanas and Aishwarya Rai (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0706787/) as Silvara
Clive Owen I think is too large a man for Gilthanas...but I like your choice for Silvara. A) she's hot, b) she's got the right color eyes (at least in one of the pictures), c) she's hot, d) she certainly has a kagonesti look to her, and e) holy crap is she hot!
I wonder how she'd look with silver hair...
Where did you hear about her? (I don't even know if I've heard about the movies she's been in, much less seen them)
p.s. How's her English? Does it have a nice heavy accent? For some reason, I think the elves should have thick accents. Czeck accents would be preferable...but that's just a personal preference because I find that particular accent sexy. :D
Clive Owen I think is too large a man for Gilthanas...
Likely. I just have this impression of him being a solid, physically intimidating warrior type, Elf or not. Between Arthur and Sin CIty, Clive Owen pulls that off in spades. I don't think it's really the right look according to the novels, but it's what's stuck in my head.
Where did you hear about her? (I don't even know if I've heard about the movies she's been in, much less seen them)
A few months ago I heard her in a radio interview, in a bit on NPR about the Indian film industry. She's a bigger star there than Angelina Jolie, Gwenneth Paltrow, and Cameron Diaz are here put together. Her Enlgish is impeccable, with a very mild accent - very British aristocratic sounding.
In fact, I'd avoid using any actors and actresses from the LOTR films. A DL film should have its own unique cast.
I agree. Sure, there are some actors from LOTR that would work for a DL movie. Billy Boyd (Pipin) would make an excellent Tas. Miranda Otto (Eowyn) would make a good Laurana. Nonetheless, you don't want DL to look like a LOTR ripoff (or rather, you want it to look like a ripoff as little as possible).
I agree. Sure, there are some actors from LOTR that would work for a DL movie. Billy Boyd (Pipin) would make an excellent Tas. Miranda Otto (Eowyn) would make a good Laurana. Nonetheless, you don't want DL to look like a LOTR ripoff (or rather, you want it to look like a ripoff as little as possible).
If you have to use them, I prefer you restrict their roles to cameo appearance.
Besides, I want to cast Miranda Otto as one of the Mystra's Chosen for a Forgotten Realms film. :P
Michael Clarke Duncan, Theros Ironfeld
John Leguizamo, Tasslehoff Burrfoot
John Malkovich, Elistan
Thomas Ian Griffith, Verminaard
Christopher Llyod, Fizban the Great
...that is for most part the non main characters, i know that tas is a main character but he is the only one i could figure out off top of my head.
i had one for tanis a while ago but i will have to think about it again.
Miranda Otto (Eowyn) would make a good Laurana.
Wow, of all the movie suggestions and actors to play the roles, I haven't been inspired to disagree with any suggestion as much as this one. Miranda Otto as Laurana? Are we talking about the same person? She didn't do anything for me in her role as Eowyn, and I think she has a little too much of a 'homely' look about her to carry off the role of an elven princess. Just my opinion though. :P
And we'd probably get Samuel L. jackson as Theros Ironfeld. Because we need a cameo by Samuel L. Jackson. He's in everything.
As great as he is, I'd rather go with someone classically trained, like Laurence Fishburne (did portrayed Shakespeare's "Othello;" but everyone knew him as "Morpheus" in The Matrix), or that British actor that played in many of Helen Mirren's Mystery TV series for BBC (aired in the US on my PBS station); also appeared as Padme's bodyguard in Episode II (before Anakin took over as her bodyguard).
I was just going to suggest that.
For some reason I have in my head Clive Owen as Gilthanas
Clive Owen = Sturm, IMHO
I'd rather see a bunch of unknown actors.
Like Jake Lloyd ("Anakin Skywalker," The Phantom Menace)? :P
And let's face facts, any DL movie is going to have a very limited budget and getting famous actors is a pipedream...
A perfect example is Mace in the latest SW movie; everytime I see him I think Pulp Fiction, not Jedi Master.
"Hand me my lightsaber. It's the one that says bad mother@#!! on it."
Like someone who most people have never heard of. Unknown actors make the character their own, rather than seeing all the roles they've played in the past. A perfect example is Mace in the latest SW movie; everytime I see him I think Pulp Fiction, not Jedi Master.
Well, I never heard of Jake Lloyd until I hear he will play a young Anakin Skywalker.
As for Mace. Samuel L. Jackson is a fan of Star Wars. I couldn't blame him for using his celeb perk to ask George Lucas if he could be in the film.
Sometimes it helps the film to have a bit of star power. It's the reason he cast legendary actor Alec Guinness in the Original Trilogy.
And let's face facts, any DL movie is going to have a very limited budget and getting famous actors is a pipedream...
Depends on whose name is connected to the film's production, like Jerry Bruckheimer (producer) or JJ Abrams (producer/writer). Maybe now that George Lucas is pretty much through with Star Wars, he could try high heroic fantasy for a change of venue.
Or, if it would make production costs cheaper, make it animated and release it to the public. I don't know how that would work out. Anyways, thats just my two pennies.
Or use john cleese as fizban ( come on, you know you wanna).
I'd cast him as Bertrem.
HOnestly, I think a CGI version of the movies would probably work best if you want A-List actors playing the voices of characters. If you do a live action version, then you are probably not going to get A-List people in this project.
The last CGI movie didn't do well in the box office, if one is referring to Final Fantasy: The Spirit Within. The most recent CGI movie that did well is a caricature superhero family film, The Incredibles.
Sorry, but I'm spoiled by LOTR, Harry Potter, and the upcoming film, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe. IOW, it's better for Dragonlance to go live-action with CG special effects. Going with all-CGI sounds like a second choice. Followed by cell animation and then live-action B-type low-budget film.
as for the twins, I dunno, I was thinking Alan Rickman doing sort of both of them, but I dunno.
You do know that Caramon and Raistlin are only 25 years old, right?
The last CGI movie didn't do well in the box office, if one is referring to Final Fantasy: The Spirit Within. The most recent CGI movie that did well is a caricature superhero family film, The Incredibles.
Final Fantasy is nearly 5 years ago, I think one can look at SHREK 1 &2, FINDING NEMO, etc and see how well a CGI movie can do.
The last CGI movie didn't do well in the box office, if one is referring to Final Fantasy: The Spirit Within. The most recent CGI movie that did well is a caricature superhero family film, The Incredibles.
Final Fantasy is nearly 5 years ago, I think one can look at SHREK 1 &2, FINDING NEMO, etc and see how well a CGI movie can do.
Ahem. Those movies you mentioned are caricature-style drawing, like The Incredibles.
The only style animation I would accept for Dragonlance is near-real, like Final Fantasy, even more recent, The Final Flight of Osiris a short CGI film in the Animatrix DVD.
I personally do not like to see a caricature of Caramon with a "Jay Leno" mega-size chin.
Sighs. You're better off doing live-action with CG special effects, just like LOTR, just like Harry Potter, and just like the upcoming Chronicles of Narnia.
Caramon - Elmer Fudd - For obvious reasons
Raistlin - Marvin the Martian - For their lust for power
Tanis - Pepe Le Peu - well... you know
Tasselhoff - Bugs Bunny - both trickster figures
Goldmoon - Road Runner - Doesn't say much
Riverwind - Wil E. Coyote - Ditto
Verminaard - The Tasmanian Devil - Raving and ravenous
Flint - Yosemite Sam - short fiesty and bearded
Sturm - Daffy Duck - for their constantly wounded pride
Now the characterizations aren't exact I'll grant you, but it is close enough that simply picturing the characters acting out the dragonlance saga (with their own personality touches) provides the maximum amount of hilarity I can imagine.
Th-th-th-that's all, folks!
Maybe now that George Lucas is pretty much through with Star Wars, he could try high heroic fantasy for a change of venue.
Dear God in Heaven. Considering what utter crapola the Star Wars prequels have been, that would be the surest way to scare me off.
I'd rather see it done by Mrs. Smith's 3rd grade homeroom.
Hell, I'd even settle for the Mrs. Smith who makes friggin' pies.
Y'all are crazy. Revenge of the Sith was a masterpiece (as far as Star Wars goes). I still can't get through it dry eyed.
I agree, though not about the tears bit, I'm too much of a man to cry at a movie ;) - I reserve my tears for when I read Dragonlance, - Stormblade for instance.
Y'all are crazy. Revenge of the Sith was a masterpiece (as far as Star Wars goes). I still can't get through it dry eyed.
Anakin: You're so beautiful.
Padme: It's just cause I'm so in love.
Anakin: No, it's just cause I'm so in love.
I distinctly recall tearing the arm off my seat at that moment. If only I could Force choke them both...
My real favorite was the scene when Mace bites it.
Anakin: What have I done?
Sidhious: Join me.
Anakin. M'kay.
This led me into a series of seizures. I'm submitting the bill to Lucasfilm.
Back on topic. I'm not in the camp that thinks Peter Jackson is the end-all-be-all fantasy director, but he'd certainly be a good candidate. He's not tugging my wallet with King Kong, mind you, but his take on Dragonlance might be worth a ticket or three.
Then again, I'd even be willing to see what Coppola could do with the property.
As for the second, Anakin basically committed to Sidious. He didn't fall, he chose it in order to save Padme's life. Once he chose it, it twisted it into the man he would become. When he killed the children for example, the acts of evil combined with Jedi mysticism effectively poisoned his soul.
I know many people who were upset with his "abrupt" transformation, but it made sense to me.
Keep dreaming. If it didn't get made after LotR, it won't be made any time soon. Which might be a good thing since I'd hate to see the DL story get butchered (Dungeons & Dragons anyone?). From what I understand, Hollywood already took a pass on the DL screenplay...
They took several passes on LOTR, that is, until one New Zealander who once said he hope someone would make a live-action version decided it's time to take it into his own hands.
As for the second, Anakin basically committed to Sidious. He didn't fall, he chose it in order to save Padme's life. Once he chose it, it twisted it into the man he would become. When he killed the children for example, the acts of evil combined with Jedi mysticism effectively poisoned his soul.
I know many people who were upset with his "abrupt" transformation, but it made sense to me.
Nine-word review.
First part:Great.
Middle part:Terrible.
Late part:Mediocre.
To explain, the middle part is where Anakin turns to the dark side.
Two things, one on-topic, one not. First one, on-topic:I'm not sure if I'd see a DL movie if it came out. I'm a negitave fan of books being made into movies.
Let me guess: you're a literary purist.
Let me guess: you're a literary purist.
If what you mean is "You like the movie to be like the book" then yes. It's also quite annoying to have the character in the movie look nothing(Or little) like the character from the book. Plus there's the fact that they wouldn't just have to trim slightly, they'd have to cut it down to a sixth or a fifth of it's size, cause it is a trillogy. Either that or make three+ movies.
If what you mean is "You like the movie to be like the book" then yes.
Actually, a purist is one who prefers a complete direct translation from book to film, every words, every minute characters. By doing so, any illiterate moviegoer would get the "feel" of the book it is translating (not adapting). Any shortcuts or cheats would only lose the meaning of the literary work itself.
For instance, only a Tolkien Purist would whine loudly about the lack of Tom Bombadil in Peter Jackson's film adaptation of the Lord of the Rings, and therefore boycott the films.
You do know that Caramon and Raistlin are only 25 years old, right?
Yes, but I was bored, he was the first that came to mind. If THAT is the case (mr. Picky...) then why not Hayden Christensen, he's young enough!!
Oh, I am not picking at you... :D
Yes, but I was bored, he was the first that came to mind. If THAT is the case (mr. Picky...) then why not Hayden Christensen, he's young enough!!
Primarily for the reason of his enormous suckiness.
It's a debilitating factor that simply can't be overwhelmed.
Primarily for the reason of his enormous suckiness.
Have you even seen him in anything else besides the two Star Wars movies?
Raistlin/Caramon - Tom Cruise.
I know, I know........ but the guy can act. He's small enough to pull off Raist's frailty, yet possesses enough machismo to capture Caramon's warlike nature. He's capable of the incredible sarcasm and callousness (Lestat comes to mind) needed for Raistlin, but could also nail the "honorable warrior's spirit" (The Last Samurai) necessary for the role of Caramon.
OK..... let the feeding frenzy begin..........
Flint: Joh Rhys Davis. ya I know, LotR, but hes the perfect Dwarf
Caramon: HHH assuming he can act, need the size. Have him grown beard
Raistlin: Sean Bean, looks enough like HHH to be twins if HHH had a beard
Sturm: Clive Owen
Riverwind: An unknown, can't think of anyone with the height
Goldmoon: Jessica Biel
Tas: Sean William Scott
Tika: Drea de Matteo
Kitira: Leonor Varela
Laurana: Milla Jovovich, perfect mix of beauty and warrior/leadership
Gilthanos: Barry Watson
Fizban: Christopher Lloyd
Verminaard: William Defoe
Tanis: Christain Bale see Reign of Fire look with beard
After watching Christian Bale in The Machinist film (where he dropped his weight dangerously low that even the cast & crew were concerned for his health) and his penchant for obsessed characters, Raistlin would be a much comfortable role for him. Personally, I'd go with Ewan MacGregor. He once covered sci-fi (nope, no debate on what genre SW belong to), so he should cover fantasy.
Alternatively, Gerard Butler.
Flint: Joh Rhys Davis. ya I know, LotR, but hes the perfect Dwarf
But he can't stand the makeup. He's also too identified with Gimli.
Caramon: HHH assuming he can act, need the size. Have him grown beard
He can't act dramatically unless it is a soap opera. You want a guy who is big but lovable.
I'd go with Gerard Butler if no one else.
Raistlin: Sean Bean, looks enough like HHH to be twins if HHH had a beard
Sean Bean is better off being a Solamnic Knight Gunther Uth Wistan. Or darken his hair for Sturm. He's also too identified with Boromir. See my post about not recycling LOTR actors.
See above.
Sturm: Clive Owen
I'll give you that.
Riverwind: An unknown, can't think of anyone with the height
Ten years ago, I would have said Daniel Day-Lewis.
Goldmoon: Jessica Biel
I would have gone with a more golden Scarlett Johansen.
Tas: Sean William Scott
Not short enough. Not the right actor.
Tika: Drea de Matteo
Huh. I didn't realize we're doing The Sopranos.
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After watching Christian Bale in The Machinist film (where he dropped his weight dangerously low that even the cast & crew were concerned for his health) and his penchant for obsessed characters, Raistlin would be a much comfortable role for him. Personally, I'd go with Ewan MacGregor. He once covered sci-fi (nope, no debate on what genre SW belong to), so he should cover fantasy
No way Bale is good for Raistlin. Hes a big, build, physical guy. Look at him play Bruce Wayne, hes got that "I'm responsible but I don't really want to be" look to his eyes. Watch Equaliberium, hes got those "theres more going on in myhead" eyes to him, hes perfect for Tanis.
But he can't stand the makeup. He's also too identified with Gimli.
GIve him enough money and he'll do it, he could have quit LotR but stayed with hit for 2 years. Hes the PERFECT Dwarf, no reason to find anyone else. Staying away from an actor who can do a good job and bring a character to life just because he was in another movie is stupid, find the best actor to play that role.
Not short enough. Not the right actor
Force perspective, the hobbits weren't really that short either. Hes got the attitude, look, can mix up the serious and joking parts of the character. Hes perfect for Tas.
Huh. I didn't realize we're doing The Sopranos
Again who cares if shes in the Sopranos. Watch her in Preceent 13 with the red hear - PERFECT look and attitude for Tika.
The others you mentioned, I'm not in love with so I have no problem changing my mind on them.
No way Bale is good for Raistlin. Hes a big, build, physical guy. Look at him play Bruce Wayne, hes got that "I'm responsible but I don't really want to be" look to his eyes. Watch Equaliberium, hes got those "theres more going on in myhead" eyes to him, hes perfect for Tanis.
Have you seen him dropped weight for the leading role in The Machinist film? The guy came close to being anorexic.
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GIve him enough money and he'll do it, he could have quit LotR but stayed with hit for 2 years. Hes the PERFECT Dwarf, no reason to find anyone else. Staying away from an actor who can do a good job and bring a character to life just because he was in another movie is stupid, find the best actor to play that role.
The dude is not that desperately poor. Even $$$ wasn't enough for one actor on Andromeda to keep wearing the Rev Brem magog makeup.
Force perspective, the hobbits weren't really that short either. Hes got the attitude, look, can mix up the serious and joking parts of the character. Hes perfect for Tas.
With all due respect, I can't really see Sean Scott being appropriate enough for the Tas role, comedic as he is. If anything, I would have preferred Will Ferrell over him, if he wasn't so tall and so old for the part.
Again who cares if shes in the Sopranos. Watch her in Preceent 13 with the red hear - PERFECT look and attitude for Tika.
I've already got more than enough of her on Joey.
GCS
Have you seen him dropped weight for the leading role in The Machinist film? The guy came close to being anorexic.
Hes not normally like that. Look at him with a beard, hes got all the intangables as an actor needed to play Tanis.
The dude is not that desperately poor. Even $$$ wasn't enough for one actor on Andromeda to keep wearing the Rev Brem magog makeup
He'd still do it. Hes not rich, its a job, they can find other stuff to do the make up with, and if he really hated it as much as your saying he would have quit LotR. Hes the perfect Dwarf, no reason to cast anyone else.
With all due respect, I can't really see Sean Scott being appropriate enough for the Tas role, comedic as he is. If anything, I would have preferred Will Ferrell over him, if he wasn't so tall and so old for the part.
Watch the guy act, hes got that right mix of humor, physical ability to do action, child like wonder.
I've already got more than enough of her on Joey.
Watch the movie, she basically played Tika in that movie, thought with younger guys like the Ashmores playing Caramon and Raistlin, she may look too old to be the love interest and have to find someone else.
Raist/(possibly) Caramon still should be James Marsters as thats whom Maragret wants.
I believe she meant for the Raistlin role. No way Spike can pull off being Caramon (that would be his colleague Angel, err Michael Boreanaz).
I still think Lyndsey Lohan would be a good Tika looks wise (if it was done very soon) and she is a skilled actress. But I do think no names would be better all around.
Meh. No-name actors does not guarantee they can make the film slightly above cult-grade. (Personally, I want box-office grade, LOTR-grade.)
If you follow George Lucas formula for the first Star Wars, you can go with no-names and lesser knowns (Harrison Ford did appear in American Graffiti prior to Star Wars) but you need a familiar veteran face to give the film (e.g., Sir Alec Guinness) a little more credible weight.
I believe she meant for the Raistlin role. No way Spike can pull off being Caramon (that would be his colleague Angel, err Michael Boreanaz).
Meh. No-name actors does not guarantee they can make the film slightly above cult-grade. (Personally, I want box-office grade, LOTR-grade.)
If you follow George Lucas formula for the first Star Wars, you can go with no-names and lesser knowns (Harrison Ford did appear in American Graffiti prior to Star Wars) but you need a familiar veteran face to give the film (e.g., Sir Alec Guinness) a little more credible weight.
I agree with the Caramon thing(besides it being Boreanaz) and I even said Marsters was only a POSSIBLE use for Caramon depending on computer generation and such.
As for the second half thats EXACTLY what I said, Use mostly no names and big names for the secondary Characters. Star Wars did it, LOTR did it and both were hits. Even not no names but lesser names. But thanks for just repeating what I have said.
GCS
Jason Lee is a late 20's, early 30's actor, which is right for Tas, he's been around longer then everyone but Tanis and Flint. And who cares about the height, LotR showed us, find the best ACTOR and make him look smaller. Hes got hte right mannerish (watch mallrats), look, and hes a very under rated actor.
This is the cast that would argue for (so far)
Tanis - Christian Bale. Has the right intensity in his eyes, has showed in a couple movies he can play the relucent hero. Very physical actor. Perfect choice for the leader.
Sturm - Clive Owen. Right look, look good in armor etc... Perfect for Sturm
Flint - John Rhys Davis. I don't care if he was in LotR, I don't care if the make up in LotR make his skin break out (they can use different stuff), simple put John Rhys Davis IS the end all, be all of movie dwarves. Why look for someone who won't do it as well as him.
Tas - Jason Lee. See above.
Tika - Drea de Matteo. Perfect look and attitude. Only thing that remove her from the role is a Caramon that looks to young to be her love interest.
Laurana - Milla Jovovich, perfect mix of beauty (looks great in galmour shots) and warrior/leadership (looks at home in action scenes and movies such as resident evil and Joan of Arc). Very slim body that would be perfect for an elf.
Fizban - Christopher Lloyd. Crazy, white haired old man. Nuff said.
Verminaard - William Defoe. Great face with the hollow cheek's. Gives off a coldness/indifference on the screen that would work great for the character.
Jason Lee is a late 20's, early 30's actor, which is right for Tas, he's been around longer then everyone but Tanis and Flint. And who cares about the height, LotR showed us, find the best ACTOR and make him look smaller. Hes got hte right mannerish (watch mallrats), look, and hes a very under rated actor.
He may be very underrated, but not my ideal casting of Tasselhoff.
Tanis - Christian Bale. Has the right intensity in his eyes, has showed in a couple movies he can play the relucent hero. Very physical actor. Perfect choice for the leader.
He can play any characters, including Raistlin. I have no objection to him playing Tanis, and if he does, then Paul Bettany should play Raistlin.
Flint - John Rhys Davis. I don't care if he was in LotR, I don't care if the make up in LotR make his skin break out (they can use different stuff), simple put John Rhys Davis IS the end all, be all of movie dwarves. Why look for someone who won't do it as well as him.
Because not all dwarves (both male and female) look like John in makeups. Robbie Coltrane can pull off as a dwarf. So's Brian Blessed.
Tika - Drea de Matteo. Perfect look and attitude. Only thing that remove her from the role is a Caramon that looks to young to be her love interest.
Looking at her, she's appropriate if someone cast a 50-year-old actor as Caramon. Sorry, but I cannot reconcile the fact that the citizens of Solace have New York (Brooklyn, Bronx, or Queens) Italian accent. Cast someone younger, preferably 19, 20 or 21.
Laurana - Milla Jovovich, perfect mix of beauty (looks great in galmour shots) and warrior/leadership (looks at home in action scenes and movies such as resident evil and Joan of Arc). Very slim body that would be perfect for an elf.
So's Charlize Theron, Natalie Portman, Kiera Knightley, etc.
Fizban - Christopher Lloyd. Crazy, white haired old man. Nuff said.
Actually, I was thinking of going with Patrick Stewart.
Verminaard - William Defoe. Great face with the hollow cheek's. Gives off a coldness/indifference on the screen that would work great for the character.
Funny enough, I was thinking of using Vin Diesel. It's only one film and his character dies at the end. Shrugs.
He may be very underrated, but not my ideal casting of Tasselhoff.
Why not? Hes got the look, attitude, able to switch from comedy to series acting, the ability to act well.
Because not all dwarves (both male and female) look like John in makeups. Robbie Coltrane can pull off as a dwarf. So's Brian Blessed.
But not as well as Davis. He not only had the look, but the voice and attitude down pat.
So's Charlize Theron, Natalie Portman, Kiera Knightley, etc
Havn't seen Theron do an action scene yet. Portman and Knightly look to young (plus Portman looks like a kid and after Star Wars I really doubt her ability to act).
Actually, I was thinking of going with Patrick Stewart.
He's too serious. Fizbin has to be half crazy, Llyod has made a career doing that.
Caramon - Dominic Purcell
Raistlin - Wentworth Miller
One is big, one is smaller (though I'd want to make Purcell bigger and Miller smaller). They look enough alike to be brothers (as the are playing in Prison break). Purcell also has that "big friendly" guy look to him, when he wants too. They would probabl yhave to break from the novels and give Caramon a beard (unless t hey get real twins) to hide all the detials of Caramon to sell the idea they are idential twins.
Why not? Hes got the look, attitude, able to switch from comedy to series acting, the ability to act well.
I just don't see the look in him.
But not as well as Davis. He not only had the look, but the voice and attitude down pat.
You go on and cast in your dream. Me? I'm trying to be practical. I don't like recycling actors based on typecasting. John may be the ideal casting of any iconic dwarf but to me he's signature Gimli.
Havn't seen Theron do an action scene yet. Portman and Knightly look to young (plus Portman looks like a kid and after Star Wars I really doubt her ability to act).
Theron is currently in production for the live-action Aeon Flux movie. She can be seen in that action-filled film, The Italian Job.
As for the other two being too young, they would be of the right age for Tika to finally reach the age of majority and become a young woman in Caramon's eyes. Portman can act, especially if she's not under the direction of George Lucas.
[Patrick's] too serious. Fizbin has to be half crazy, Llyod has made a career doing that.
But can he pull of the Queen's English? Patrick have been known to do comedy and out of his classical range. He once portrayed a gay designer.
Caramon - Dominic Purcell
Raistlin - Wentworth Miller
One is big, one is smaller (though I'd want to make Purcell bigger and Miller smaller). They look enough alike to be brothers (as the are playing in Prison break). Purcell also has that "big friendly" guy look to him, when he wants too. They would probabl yhave to break from the novels and give Caramon a beard (unless t hey get real twins) to hide all the detials of Caramon to sell the idea they are idential twins.
While I know of John Doe, who the hell is Wentworth?
Caramon: Scott Speedman
Tanis: Ewen McGregor
Riverwind: Gerard Butler
Kitiara: Lucy Lawless (If it happened in the next few years)
We did a Dream Cast awhile back at my DL group. This of course would never happen, unless they had unlimited funds for actors :P
I definately agree that unknowns/lesser knowns should overall be used with a few big names. Those are the top 5 I would personally like to see in a film version.
I just don't see the look in him
Watch Reign of Fire and Batman.
You go on and cast in your dream. Me? I'm trying to be practical. I don't like recycling actors based on typecasting. John may be the ideal casting of any iconic dwarf but to me he's signature Gimli
Guys are type cast for a reason, they are good at it. Theres no reason to cast anyon ebut Davis, he is PERFECT
Theron is currently in production for the live-action Aeon Flux movie. She can be seen in that action-filled film, The Italian Job.
As for the other two being too young, they would be of the right age for Tika to finally reach the age of majority and become a young woman in Caramon's eyes. Portman can act, especially if she's not under the direction of George Lucas.
Great, so THeron would be goodint eh car chase sceen. As for the other two, Tika does not look or act innnocent (even though she is). She should look older and like she knows her "way around a bed room" those two don't bring that (Portman was only good int he Profesional, and Id on't think Knightly is that good to being with).
But can he pull of the Queen's English? Patrick have been known to do comedy and out of his classical range. He once portrayed a gay designer.
Fizbin isn't just comedy, hes nuts. Thats hard to play, Lloyd has made a career doing it. And since when does Fizbin speak the Queens English?
While I know of John Doe, who the hell is Wentworth?
Hes on IMDB.com,. they are playing brothers int he new series Prison Break. He'd have to slim down for the role, but even in prison break he plays the smarter, darker of the two.
Fizbin isn't just comedy, hes nuts. Thats hard to play, Lloyd has made a career doing it. And since when does Fizbin speak the Queens English?
Well, I certainly wouldn't like to hear Midwest speech or Texas drawl or "dem's Queens accent, a'ight!" in a Dragonlance story.
Would you prefer to hear Gandalf shouting "Y'all get going to Mount Doom, y'hear?" Or worse, an Ebonic version.
If that's the case, I'd rather hear Jar Jar narrating the Star Wars audiobook. Yousa wrong in de head!
Would you prefer to hear Gandalf shouting "Y'all get going to Mount Doom, y'hear?" Or worse, an Ebonic version.
Llyod doesn't have to do that in all his movies, watch Backto the Future, he's not talking with a Texas or Southern accent. He'd know the perfect way to hand Fizban
As for Riverwind, Oded Fehr would be a good choice IF they wanted to make the Plainsman have that kinda look (darker skin, Middle eastern looking etc...).
Llyod doesn't have to do that in all his movies, watch Backto the Future, he's not talking with a Texas or Southern accent. He'd know the perfect way to hand Fizban
What is the deal with you and Christopher Lloyd?
Lindsey Lohan for Tika (unless there's another barely legal red-head out there).
Jessica Alba for Laurana (she has the body).
Angolina Jolie for Kitiara (she has the lips, along with everything else).
I can't decide for Goldmoon...
Yay for wish lists. *sigh*
Raistlin - Jhonny Depp
Tanis - Viggo Mortensen
Tasselhoff - Richard Gere
Goldmoon - Liv Tyler
Riverwind - Bruce willis
Flint - Mel Gibson
Jessica Alba for Laurana (she has the body).
She has a body and excellent one at that, but it ain't Laurana's.
Try Jaime King from Bulletproof Monk.
She has a body and excellent one at that, but it ain't Laurana's.
Try Jaime King from Bulletproof Monk.
Ahh. Yea, she'd definately be better.
I'm still debating on who'd make a good Goldmoon and Riverwind.
On second thought... it just came to me.
Keira Knightley for Goldmoon, and...
*might get shot for this one*
The Rock for Riverwind.
He's a decent actor, come on!
Caramon -Sylvester Stalone
Raistlin - Jhonny Depp
Tanis - Viggo Mortensen
Tasselhoff - Richard Gere
Goldmoon - Liv Tyler
Riverwind - Bruce willis
Flint - Mel Gibson
Sighs.
Let me guess. You're Courtney Solomon's casting director. That explains Thora Birch.
Keira Knightley for Goldmoon, and...
*might get shot for this one*
The Rock for Riverwind.
He's a decent actor, come on!
First Goldmoon is suspoed tobe 30, not 18. Second Knightley can't act keep here away from the set.
The Rock is to big to Riverwind - hes tall but not big.
The Rock is to big to Riverwind - hes tall but not big.
Interesting, considering he wants to portray the Hawaiian Chief that will unite all of the islands under his rule as King Kamehameha the Great.
But I don't see Johson playing Riverwind. Theros Otik? Yes, if Michael Clarke Duncan is not available.
I thought Riverwind and Goldmoon's tribe has an Eurpoean outlook. (German?)
Tanis :Ewan McGregor
Riverwind :Antonio Banderas
Goldmoon :Katherine Zeta-jones
Tika :Mariska Hargitay
Caramon :Eric Bana
Raistlin :Christian Bale or Gary Oldman (preferably Bale, Oldman is a little too old. But he can be way scary when he wants to.)
Kitiara :Kate Beckinsdale
Laurana :Keira Knightly
Sturm :Obed Fehr
Tasselhoff :Seth Green
Ariakan :Jason Isaacs
Verminaard :Jim Caviezel
Flint
Fizban
Ewan McGregor - Star Wars, Blackhawk Down
Antonio Banders - Zorro, The 13th Warrior, Original Sin
Katherine Zeta-Jones - Zorro, Entrapment
Mariska Hargitay - Law & Order: SVU
Eric Bana - Hulk, Blackhawk Down, Troy
- Christian Bale - Reign of Fire, Shaft, Batman Begins
- Gary Oldman - Bram Stoker's Dracula, Air Force One, Harry Potter: Prisoner of Azkaban, Batman Begins
Kate Beckinsdale - Underworld, Van Helsing
Keira Knightly - Pirates of the Carribean, King Arthur, Robin Hood: Princess of thieves
Obed Fehr - The Mummy, The mummy Returns, Charmed - the Series
Seth Green - The Italian Job, Without a Paddle, Buffy the Vampire Series
Jason Isaacs - Blackhawk Down, Soldier, Windtalkers, Patriot
Jim Caviezel - High Crimes, The Count of Monte Cristo
Of course this is my list of Grade "A" actors assuming the film has the funds to do it right. I will come up with a list of lesser knowns in case the funding fell through.
This was just a fun exercise for me, nothing too serious, but here's what I have so far:
Tanis Halfelven-- Christian Bale
Sturm Brightblade-- Eric Bana or Clive Owen
Flint Fireforge-- Peter Postlethwaite
Caramon Majere-- Heath Ledger
(a weak call, but I couldn't think of anyone else offhand)
Raistlin Majere-- Cillian Murphy or Stuart Townsend
(either of them would be utterly perfect Raistlins)
Kitiara uth Matar-- Eliza Dushku
Tika Waylan-- Lynn Collins
Goldmoon-- Zooey Deschanel
Lauralanthalasa-- Keira Knightley
Solostaran-- Bill Nighy
Alhana Starbreeze-- Sienna Guillory
Lorac Caladon-- Christopher Lee
Gunthar uth Wistan-- Victor Garber
Fizban the Fabulous-- Patrick Stewart or John Cleese
This is what I have come up with.
Tanis :Ewan McGregor
No objection. He has the classic Elmore's Tanis look.
Riverwind :Antonio Banderas
Well, he is European. But he's old.
Goldmoon :Katherine Zeta-jones
Have never seen her in blonde. But she's too old. Would have been okay, if the film had been shot before Y2K.
Tika :Mariska Hargitay
Old. I'm beginning to see your pattern.
Caramon :Eric Bana
I'll give you that.
Raistlin :Christian Bale or Gary Oldman (preferably Bale, Oldman is a little too old. But he can be way scary when he wants to.)
You could have Oldman play the Wizard Fistandantilus, but that's another Trilogy film.
Or worse yet, Fizban.
Kitiara :Kate Beckinsdale
You got the brunette part, but I don't think she look appropriate portraying an older sibling of the Majere twins (Caramon & Raistlin).
I'd cast her as Alhana, however.
Laurana :Keira Knightly
No objection.
Sturm :Obed Fehr
Hmm. Jury is still deliberating.
Tasselhoff :Seth Green
Hehehe. *chuckles*
I prefer Shia LeBouf of [i]Even Steven[/i (TV) and Holes (film).
Ariakan :Jason Isaacs
No objection.
Verminaard :Jim Caviezel
I'd rather he be Riverwind.
Tanis :Ewan McGregor
He doesn't have the intangables to play Tanis, the look for a Tanis begins and ends with Christain Bale.
Riverwind :Antonio Banderas , Goldmoon :Katherine Zeta-jones
They were always described and intended to be more Native American looking then European.
Caramon :Eric Bana
Not even close to having the right boby frame.
Raistlin :Christian Bale or Gary Oldman (preferably Bale, Oldman is a little too old. But he can be way scary when he wants to.)
Bale is a big, well build guy, he lost weight for one movie. Better choices out there, and whoever it is has to look like the guy playing Caramon (- see prison break for the right mix of actors for the twins).
Laurana :Keira Knightly
Except she can't act, I want a REAL actress playing Laurana not some 18 year old kid who looks good half naked.
Sturm :Obed Fehr
Clive Owen, as perfect for Sturm as Bale is for Tanis
Tasselhoff :Seth Green
Except she can't act, I want a REAL actress playing Laurana not some 18 year old kid who looks good half naked.
Actually she has shown remarkable talent in most of her parts.
You really shouldn't watch movies with your eyes half shut, Sluggo. ;)
Actually she has shown remarkable talent in most of her parts.
Sure, if you think it takes talent to always have the same expression and tone in your voice for every scene.
I will give you
Sturm – Clive Owen (after seeing him in King Arthur he can do it)
But you gotta take
Tanis – Ewan McGregor (Don’t know what intangibles you think he don’t have though)
I’ll give you
Jessica Biell – But for Laurana (We know she can fight and handle a bow as well)
Marishka Hargitay – For Kitiara (Ranger says she is too old for Tika, but I like her)
Goldmoon – An Unknown
Riverwind – An Unknown (But they both need to be of the same ethnicity, or at least close)
I’ll give you
Tas – Sean William Scott (Not sure about these next two)
Tika – Drea De Matteo
But I want
Caramon – Eric Bana (But I think this is the jackpot right here, they even look like they could be brothers) (and yes Eric Bana has the body frame for the role, look at Troy)
Raistlin – Christian Bale (we know he can get skeletal and scary)
I’ll give you
Flint – John Rhyes Davies (Yes he was a great dwarf)
But I want
Ariakas – Jason Isaacs (He is that person you love to hate, and almost all his roles he plays a military commander) (Windtalkers - Col, Soldier - LT, Blackhawk Down - Cpt, The Patriot - Col)
But you gotta take
Tanis – Ewan McGregor (Don’t know what intangibles you think he don’t have though)
Hes to "light" of an actor, when he tries to do something serious (action, drama etc...) it either has to be kept very short (ie - one line like "I'm cooking up") or done in a light hearted way (ie - him fighting Grevious in RotS, or grinning through most of his fight with Anakin). Hes a good actor, but he doesn't bring the intensity or "eyes" of an unwilling leader the way Bale does.
I’ll give you
Tas – Sean William Scott (Not sure about these next two)
Jason Lee would be better then Sean William Scott. Hes got a better look and could handle the none humor part of the character much better.
But I want
Caramon – Eric Bana (But I think this is the jackpot right here, they even look like they could be brothers) (and yes Eric Bana has the body frame for the role, look at Troy)
Raistlin – Christian Bale (we know he can get skeletal and scary)
Bana does not have the side or frame to be big enough, Caramon is bigger then the normal "big" man, hes freakishly big. Dominic Purcell has the frame and size to be as big as Caramon needs to be, Bana doesn't. Wentworth is already playing his brother (the smarter, more evil one) in Prison Break - perfect combo.
I would suggest casting other people who can deliver the fraternal feel through acting alone, because relying on physical appearance for the brothers Majere is going to be far too hard to achieve on-screen. Pick some adept, expressive actors to fill the roles of Caramon and Raistlin and rely purely on their dramatic talents instead of their physical similarities.
Ok. Sluggo, I'm willing to compromise.
I'm not.
Oggie
Personally, I think I'd have Michael Clark Duncan play the minotaur second mate to Maquesta Kar-Thon (3rd book). You can't have Krynn without minotaurs and tinker gnomes.
I think Patrick Stewart would make a good Elistan rather than Fizban, and for some reason I'm thinking Sean Hayes (Will & Grace) might be a good Tas (facial planes, not acting chops). Maybe he should play the gnome...
Oggie
For Riverwind I'd suggest Thomas Jane (Deep Blue Sea, Punisher). The artwork for DL makes it abundantly clear that the plains barbarians are basically European stock, as are all humans except sea barbarians (African) and Khur nomads (Arabic). Heck, everybody is lily-white in DL (which gives you a clue as to the target audience in the 80's).
I don't know why but I keep mistaking him for Christopher Lambert. :P
A decent choice.
Personally, I think I'd have Michael Clark Duncan play the minotaur second mate to Maquesta Kar-Thon (3rd book). You can't have Krynn without minotaurs and tinker gnomes.
Well, he does have the voice and the body (below the neck) for it. I dare say I would recast him as Kaz if the first DL movie is based on Huma's story.
Caramon = Brad Pitt
Raistlin = Brad Pitt (have his hair died white, wear red robes, etc.)
Fistandantilus: Maybe Ian Mcdiarmind (sp?) or someone else.
Fizban/Paladan: Ian Mclellen
Kitiara: Angelina Jolie
No objection. He has the classic Elmore's Tanis look.
Well, he is European. But he's old.
Have never seen her in blonde. But she's too old. Would have been okay, if the film had been shot before Y2K.
Old. I'm beginning to see your pattern.
I'll give you that.
You could have Oldman play the Wizard Fistandantilus, but that's another Trilogy film.
Or worse yet, Fizban.
You got the brunette part, but I don't think she look appropriate portraying an older sibling of the Majere twins (Caramon & Raistlin).
I'd cast her as Alhana, however.
No objection.
Hmm. Jury is still deliberating.
Hehehe. *chuckles*
I prefer Shia LeBouf of [i]Even Steven[/i (TV) and Holes (film).
No objection.
I'd rather he be Riverwind.
Fistandantilus is in the first trilogy (chronicles) Dragons of Spring Dawning.
Also, wasn't Kiera Knightly the decoy queen in Phantom Menace and she was only 14 year old?!?
You guys seen Troy, right?
Caramon = Brad Pitt
Raistlin = Brad Pitt (have his hair died white, wear red robes, etc.)
Fistandantilus: Maybe Ian Mcdiarmind (sp?) or someone else.
Fizban/Paladan: Ian Mclellen
Kitiara: Angelina Jolie or Talisa Soto
edit: forgot
Thakisis:
Meg Foster....who also played Hera in Hercules: The Legendary Journies.
Flint Fireforge - Robbie Coltrane (And some angle manipulation...yeah!)
Tasslehoff - Get a short teen to play him. Duh.
Goldmoon - Jaime Pressley (She has a intense look about her that would work)
Riverwind - Eric Bana (Has to be tall)
Caramon & Raistlin - The O'Connell twins (Give them a year's notice to create the proper bodies)
Sturm - Clive Owen (needs to be aged abit)
Tika - Jolene Blalock (Yep, she works perfectly!)
Lauralanthalasa/Laurana - Kiera Knightley (We are looking for a youthful appearance and a slight frame here)
Of course, the reality is that many names will have to be sacrificed, but that is my a-list right now.
And I still don't buy this 'The prequels were crap' argument. Ok, TPM was the worst one of them, but I can watch it more than ANH, AotC beats out ESB (sans the forced love story), and RotS tops all of them. All. Of. Them. I mean, come on, how can you love Vader like you did before after watching him murder a bunch of kids and then act like nothing happened around Padme. It made me sick, honestly...which is what it should have done. He was so twisted by his obsessive love, that NOBODY could have done the 'Turn to the Dark Side' scene any better. Anything else would have been a load of manure.
Whats-his-name from The Crow, the bad guy, I forgot his name. He'd make a good Ariakan. He's got the evil voice and everything! Either him or Chemosh.
Angelina Jolie would be better as Takhisis. Eliza Dushku would make a kickass Kitiara.
And, for pure comical effect, a shrunken Pauly Shore for Tass.
You guys seen Troy, right?
Caramon = Brad Pitt
Kitiara: Angelina Jolie
Such an unlikely casting and may border on controversy. :P
Before Ewan MacGregor became an A-list actor and star both in the US and abroad, Brad Pitt would have been a likely choice for Tanis role.
Seems like the character Tanis was a direct reflection of Tracy Hickman, and the character Laurana was a direct reflection of Hickman's wife.
Tanthalas/Tanis - Ewan McGregor (He is more than capable and has the look down pat, no exceptions)
Flint Fireforge - Robbie Coltrane (And some angle manipulation...yeah!)
Tasslehoff - Get a short teen to play him. Duh.
Is Haley Joel Osment (spelling?) short or tall?
Goldmoon - Jaime Pressley (She has a intense look about her that would work)
Ehhh. My money's on Charlize Theron or James King.
Riverwind - Eric Bana (Has to be tall)
Caramon & Raistlin - The O'Connell twins (Give them a year's notice to create the proper bodies)
As stated in another thread, they're brothers. Brothers from New York.
Sturm - Clive Owen (needs to be aged abit)
He's old enough.
Then again, there's Jonathan Cake (portrayed "Tyrannus" on ABC's Empire; also "Jason Shephard" on BBC drama, The Fallen).
Tika - Jolene Blalock (Yep, she works perfectly!)
Ehhhh. If you can't get any of the above actress, Jolene can do Goldmoon.
Lauralanthalasa/Lauranana - Kiera Knightley (We are looking for a youthful appearance and a slight frame here)
My money's on Scarlett Johansson. If The Island is any indication, both Ewan and Scarlett makes a good pairing.
And I still don't buy this 'The prequels were crap' argument. Ok, TPM was the worst one of them, but I can watch it more than ANH, AotC beats out ESB (sans the forced love story), and RotS tops all of them. All. Of. Them. I mean, come on, how can you love Vader like you did before after watching him murder a bunch of kids and then act like nothing happened around Padme. It made me sick, honestly...which is what it should have done.
It should have, yet my nephew wanted the Darth mask with voice changer and his saber right after the movie. It horrified me as an adult, but not the children.
Even Luke draws power from The Dark Side in the fight with his father in ROTJ.
Tanthalas/Tanis - Ewan McGregor (He is more than capable and has the look down pat, no exceptions)
Flint Fireforge - Robbie Coltrane (And some angle manipulation...yeah!)
Tasslehoff - Get a short teen to play him. Duh.
Goldmoon - Jaime Pressley (She has a intense look about her that would work)
Riverwind - Eric Bana (Has to be tall)
Caramon & Raistlin - The O'Connell twins (Give them a year's notice to create the proper bodies)
Sturm - Clive Owen (needs to be aged abit)
Tika - Jolene Blalock (Yep, she works perfectly!)
Lauralanthalasa/Laurana - Kiera Knightley (We are looking for a youthful appearance and a slight frame here)
Of course, the reality is that many names will have to be sacrificed, but that is my a-list right now.
And I still don't buy this 'The prequels were crap' argument. Ok, TPM was the worst one of them, but I can watch it more than ANH, AotC beats out ESB (sans the forced love story), and RotS tops all of them. All. Of. Them. I mean, come on, how can you love Vader like you did before after watching him murder a bunch of kids and then act like nothing happened around Padme. It made me sick, honestly...which is what it should have done. He was so twisted by his obsessive love, that NOBODY could have done the 'Turn to the Dark Side' scene any better. Anything else would have been a load of manure.
Okay first of all RotS was noway better than any of the old ones (well okay the first two). RotJ is like a hundred times better than any of the prequels. I mean the fx weren't great, but the story felt genuine, not forced like with Hayden and Natalie. Those two made me hate love for like a month.
Second, I think that maybe two or three a-list actors would be great for the DL movie, but only certain characters should be alisted.
1. Tas
2. Fizban/Paladine (Personally I think the two shouldn't be the same actor)
3. Raistlin
Tanis Kevin Costner or Eric Stoltz
Caramon Arnold Schwarzenegger or Liam Neeson
Raistlin Brent Spiner or John Malkovich
Sturm Christopher Lamborert Patrick Bergin
Laurana Michelle Pfeiffer or Robin Wright
Kitiara Demi Moore or Michelle Forbes
Goldmoon Meg Ryan
Riverwind Lou Diamond Phillips or Wes Studi
Flint Danny De Vito or Malcolm Dixon
Tasslehoff Elijah Wood or James Robinson
Tika Nicole Kidman or Helena Bonham Carter
Gilthanas Cary Elwes
Verminaard Jeremy Irons or Clancy Brown
Gunthar Gene Hackman or James Cosmo
Astinus Patrick Stewart or Christopher Walken
Eben Duncan Regehr or Steve Buscemi
Theros Morgan Freeman
Toede Wallace Shawn or Wallace Shawn
Elistan Charlton Heston
Derek Dennis Quaid or Harvey Keitel
Ariakas Rutger Hauer
Fizban Christopher Lloyd or Richard Harris
Berem Brad Pitt or Willem Dafoe
Silvara Drew Barrymore or Drew Barrymore
Bupu Rhea Perlman or Carol Kane
Solostaran Frank Langella or Frank Langella
Alhana Courtney Cox or Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
Gnosh Kenny Baker or Kenny Baker
Bakaris Sting or Sting
Maquesta Angela Bassett or Angela Bassett
Amothus John Cleese or John Cleese
Zebulah Sean Connery or Robert Duvall
Apoletta Halle Berry or Halle Berry
Takhisis Teri Hatcher Sigourney Weaver
Otik Bob Hoskins or Mike McShane
Lorac Donald Sutherland
Bertrem David Hyde-Pierce
Hederick Tommy Lee Jones or Robbie Coltrane
Mishakal Moira Kelly
Highbulp Jack Purvis
Porthios Kiefer Sutherland or Ian Hart
Pyros Sam Neill
Sestun Mike Edmonds
Crysania Sandra Bullock or Madeleine Stowe
Dalamar Daniel Day Lewis
What do you think?
Back then I could agree with some of the casting choice.
But we're in 2005.
Liam Neeson at best can be Gunthar Uth Wistan.
What do you think?
Tanis Kevin Costner or Eric Stoltz
Caramon Arnold Schwarzenegger or Liam Neeson
Raistlin Brent Spiner or John Malkovich
Sturm Christopher Lamborert Patrick Bergin
Laurana Michelle Pfeiffer or Robin Wright
Kitiara Demi Moore or Michelle Forbes
Goldmoon Meg Ryan
Riverwind Lou Diamond Phillips or Wes Studi
Flint Danny De Vito or Malcolm Dixon
Tasslehoff Elijah Wood or James Robinson
Tika Nicole Kidman or Helena Bonham Carter
Gilthanas Cary Elwes
Verminaard Jeremy Irons or Clancy Brown
Gunthar Gene Hackman or James Cosmo
Astinus Patrick Stewart or Christopher Walken
Eben Duncan Regehr or Steve Buscemi
Theros Morgan Freeman
Toede Wallace Shawn or Wallace Shawn
Elistan Charlton Heston
Derek Dennis Quaid or Harvey Keitel
Ariakas Rutger Hauer
Fizban Christopher Lloyd or Richard Harris
Berem Brad Pitt or Willem Dafoe
Silvara Drew Barrymore or Drew Barrymore
Bupu Rhea Perlman or Carol Kane
Solostaran Frank Langella or Frank Langella
Alhana Courtney Cox or Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio
Gnosh Kenny Baker or Kenny Baker
Bakaris Sting or Sting
Maquesta Angela Bassett or Angela Bassett
Amothus John Cleese or John Cleese
Zebulah Sean Connery or Robert Duvall
Apoletta Halle Berry or Halle Berry
Takhisis Teri Hatcher Sigourney Weaver
Otik Bob Hoskins or Mike McShane
Lorac Donald Sutherland
Bertrem David Hyde-Pierce
Hederick Tommy Lee Jones or Robbie Coltrane
Mishakal Moira Kelly
Highbulp Jack Purvis
Porthios Kiefer Sutherland or Ian Hart
Pyros Sam Neill
Sestun Mike Edmonds
Crysania Sandra Bullock or Madeleine Stowe
Dalamar Daniel Day Lewis
Maybe fifty years ago or so.
Silvara Drew Barrymore or Drew Barrymore
Barrymore's ugly fat arse couldn't pass for an elf in worst movie ever made.
Myriddian, those suggestions - at least some of them, I didn't read your complete list - went out in the mid to late 90's. Think young crowd - most of the characters (Heroes of the Lance) in the book were late teen early 20's (or at least appeared that way). If it ever happened, it should be a bunch of no-name actors that fit the bill as written by MW and TH, with a couple big time guys thrown in to give it a little draw (that is the same argument that's been around forever too). Just my opinion.
I could imagine Sigourney Weaver with 5 heads, wings and a tail. XD
Thakisis also has a human form
Myriddian, those suggestions - at least some of them, I didn't read your complete list - went out in the mid to late 90's. Think young crowd - most of the characters (Heroes of the Lance) in the book were late teen early 20's (or at least appeared that way). If it ever happened, it should be a bunch of no-name actors that fit the bill as written by MW and TH, with a couple big time guys thrown in to give it a little draw (that is the same argument that's been around forever too). Just my opinion.
Pay attention Rath, I was saying they were to old.
Pay attention Rath, I was saying they were to old.
You'll have to excuse ol' Rath...he's getting rather elderly these days (talk louder and face him when speaking).
HI..RATH. HOW..ARE..YOU..TODAY? I..HOPE..THINGS..ARE..WELL.
:D
Anyway...he's right, that was Jeurgen's list. (I especially liked one of his choices for Fizban...)
Pay attention Rath, I was saying they were to old.
Oops, heh heh, didn't mean to say it was your list, I knew it was a quote you pulled, I just pulled the name from the wrong post. Got about 1/4 down the list and thought you were stuck in the past with Tas' Device of Time Journeying.
Sorry bout that.
Brim,
Be lucky you're too far away for me to throw things ;)
Congrats on a smooth landing this morning, watched it live and was very excited!!!!
Tanis Kevin Costner or Eric Stoltz
Thank you!! While I'd be happy with either Ewan McGregor or Christian Bale playing Tanis, to me Eric Stoltz is Tanis.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000655/
http://www.negativschnitt.de/eric_stoltz/html/rob_roy_001.html
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Oh, and for the record, John Leguizamo is more than perfect for Tas. Did you guys see Moulin Rouge? There should really be no more discussion on that one.
Thank you!! While I'd be happy with either Ewan McGregor or Christian Bale playing Tanis, to me Eric Stoltz is Tanis.
So's Charlton Heston, or did you forget his bearded role as Moses of The Ten Commandments?
He has the look -- though I still keep seeing him as he was on Mask with Cher as his mother -- but he doesn't have that A-list persona that Ewan have right now. In a way, I feel bad for him because he should have surpassed Tom Cruise's popularity (for whom I have reserved all by worldly hate) but he's not going to be in this film...
He might in the Soprano version of Dragonlance. (See earlier posting that includes Drea De Matteo.) :P
The problem we have is that we just aren't that knowledgable about the up and coming talent in the movie industry. Think back to when the cast for LOTR was announced. How many did you know?
Oggie
The problem we have is that we just aren't that knowledgable about the up and coming talent in the movie industry. Think back to when the cast for LOTR was announced. How many did you know?
Liv Tyler? Daughter of one of the Aerosmith and starred in Stealing Beauty film.
Elijah Wood? He portrayed a kid who suddenly have a golden arm and pitched for a professional baseball team. Also in a thriller movie with Macauley Culkin.
Sir Ian McKellan? X-Men and Richard III (a Shakespeare with a Nazi twist).
Christopher Lee? Rank right up there with Vincent Price as the Master of Horror films (before we get them commercialized craps like Nightmare on Elm Street).
Sean Astin? He's one of the Goonies. Also a Rudy.
Viggo Mortensen? With Demi Moore in GI Jane.
Brad Dourif? Ensign Suder on Star Trek: Voyager (the early pre-Braga seasons).
Karl Urban? Played Apollo "the surfing sun god" on Hercules: The Legendary Journey (shot in New Zealand alongside Xena: Warrior Princess).
Sean Bean? I believe he portrayed the title role in Sharpe's Regiment. Also starred with Pierce Brosnan in a James Bond film.
I might cast Angeline Jole as Kitiara.
I'd also like to see Vin Diesel in the movie. Not necessarily in a huge role (as one of the Companions), but maybe as Verminaard.
I'd also like to see Vin Diesel in the movie. Not necessarily in a huge role (as one of the Companions), but maybe as Verminaard.
I don't know why, but I'd like Vin to go the same route as Andy Serkis, don those ridiculous suit full of ping-pong balls and become the body and voice of Kaz the Minotaur.
http://www.nerakayqualinost.com/paginaP.html
Halle Barry for Kitiara and Angelina Jolie as Takhisis.
or what about this one?
http://www.nerakayqualinost.com/paginaP5.html
on that board Tracy Hickman posts on possible actors in the dragonlance movie (if there is going to be one)
First: Lord of the Rings was the first in several years to get it right in live-action because of a monster budget. Any further attempts would draw the inevitable comparisons to Lord of the Rings and would cease to be its own property.
Second: It's a strong possibility that it would turn out to be utter crap. Let's look to DnD: The Movie as a strong example here. It was fully endorsed by WOTC (it was even bragged up on the DVD by WOTC's president) as the be-all and end-all sword and sorcery flick. While watching it in the theater, I was overcome with dread that I was witnessing the impending death of DnD as we know it. Therefore, I do not wish to see a WOTC-endorsed DnD movie again anytime soon- at least not until they can hire a writer and a director that actually knows what DnD is. No-more second-rate hacks doing this please.
At least with animation, we don't have to bear witness to horrible performances and direction, and budget is not as big an issue.
If a movie of Dragonlance was ever made I wouldn't want to watch it any other way than animated.
First: Lord of the Rings was the first in several years to get it right in live-action because of a monster budget. Any further attempts would draw the inevitable comparisons to Lord of the Rings and would cease to be its own property.
Is it because the story concepts are similar?
Is that why you believe Dragonlance would fail and the upcoming Narnia movie (filmed in New Zealand and set to release this Winter 2005) would not?
Second: It's a strong possibility that it would turn out to be utter crap. Let's look to DnD: The Movie as a strong example here. It was fully endorsed by WOTC (it was even bragged up on the DVD by WOTC's president) as the be-all and end-all sword and sorcery flick. While watching it in the theater, I was overcome with dread that I was witnessing the impending death of DnD as we know it. Therefore, I do not wish to see a WOTC-endorsed DnD movie again anytime soon- at least not until they can hire a writer and a director that actually knows what DnD is. No-more second-rate hacks doing this please.
With all due respect, prior to the release of The Fellowship of the Ring, there were many people, even Tolkien purists, who strongly believe that a live-action LOTR movie would be utter crap. I mean, how can a scruffy guy from New Zealand whose prior directing credit includes the Frighteners (starring Michael J Fox) could pull off something so epic that no one dare touched?
You're right. We've had the worst D&D titled movie, courtesy of Courtney Solomon, whose street cred could not muster enough budget equivalent to just one of the three LOTR film. Who could not try to do a lot of pre-production task including test shots, build a medieval village with landscape grown for a year before shooting, storyboard, pre-visualization, etc.
But I believe it can still be done. We just got to find somebody willing to go the distance the way Peter Jackson did, not the lazy Hollywood approach of taking shortcuts because the production company's accountant is breathing down your neck.
At least with animation, we don't have to bear witness to horrible performances and direction, and budget is not as big an issue.
I dunno. It's possible to make animated film worst. Case in point, Titan A.E.
Why should we treat animation differently from live-action?
: I dunno. It's possible to make animated film worst. Case in point, Titan A.E.
OHHH, but I loved Titan AE
[/sarcasm] :DY'all are crazy. Revenge of the Sith was a masterpiece (as far as Star Wars goes). I still can't get through it dry eyed.
Yeah i was crying but thats because of sitting through 2 1/2 hours of horrilbe acting.
With all due respect, prior to the release of The Fellowship of the Ring, there were many people, even Tolkien purists, who strongly believe that a live-action LOTR movie would be utter crap.
Actually...correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a lot of LotR purists still think the movies were utter crap?
There's a thought: Have Peter Jackson do the DL movies. It will be just as cool as LOTR movies.
That would be an absolutely terrible idea, and it drives me crazy everytime someone suggests it. The reason Peter Jackson was a good choice (in my opinion) for Lord of the Rings is because he had great love and respect for the books. Not because he's a good fantasy director (which he may be anyway).
What we would need is a director/producer/production team with as much love and respect for Dragonlance that the Lord of the Rings team had for those books. That is what is needed. Not some carbon copy of those movies with the same people working on it.
Actually...correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a lot of LotR purists still think the movies were utter crap?That would be an absolutely terrible idea, and it drives me crazy everytime someone suggests it. The reason Peter Jackson was a good choice (in my opinion) for Lord of the Rings is because he had great love and respect for the books. Not because he's a good fantasy director (which he may be anyway).
What we would need is a director/producer/production team with as much love and respect for Dragonlance that the Lord of the Rings team had for those books. That is what is needed. Not some carbon copy of those movies with the same people working on it.
Ok how about we make the DL movie... just a thought...
Actually...correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a lot of LotR purists still think the movies were utter crap? That would be an absolutely terrible idea, and it drives me crazy everytime someone suggests it. The reason Peter Jackson was a good choice (in my opinion) for Lord of the Rings is because he had great love and respect for the books. Not because he's a good fantasy director (which he may be anyway).
Yeah, the purists still do.
Granted, Peter Jackson is a good choice for the argument you presented, but one can also say the same for D&D fan Courtney Solomon.
What we would need is a director/producer/production team with as much love and respect for Dragonlance that the Lord of the Rings team had for those books. That is what is needed.
Yeah, but no matter who is chosen as director and producer, people out there are still going to be skeptical. And the DL Purists will be coming out of the forest.
Besides, do you know of any director that have read the Dragonlance Chronicles book and loves them?
Not some carbon copy of those movies with the same people working on it.
Which is why all y'all have to got off the "John-Rhys Davies should be Flint the Dwarf" wagon.
But I have to be honest, for part of the production crew, I'd rather have WETA Workshop and WETA Digital for visual effects, props, and set design. Then again, I'm biased because I'm currently watching the LOTR films' Appendices.
Besides, do you know of any director that have read the Dragonlance Chronicles book and loves them?
Sure. Joss Whedon loves the books. Dragons of Summer Flame made a guest appearance on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Cheers,
Cam
Sure. Joss Whedon loves the books. Dragons of Summer Flame made a guest appearance on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Cheers,
Cam
Really? When was that? The only D&D reference I remember was when they had a last game in the final episode (which featured a "cameo" from Trogdor the Burninator.) Neat anyway.
Sure. Joss Whedon loves the books. Dragons of Summer Flame made a guest appearance on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Cheers,
Cam
summerflame is the sequal to second generation. It's not part of Chronicles.
summerflame is the sequal to second generation. It's not part of Chronicles.
Yes. I know.
Cheers,
Cam
Sure. Joss Whedon loves the books. Dragons of Summer Flame made a guest appearance on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Meh. That is the most recent DL book I bought after Second Generation, and where I got turned off DL.
Okay, hypothetically, if we want Joss Whedon, can he handle 15 consecutive months of directing three films all at one?
Hey REG? Check out some of the pre-history types. Not Barbarians, which is rather too much Great Man for me, but the Ergoth Trilogy was good.
Oggie
There was also a scene in Buffy where Xander thinks he found a reference to the demon they're hunting, and the book is the Fiend Folio .
Hey REG? Check out some of the pre-history types. Not Barbarians, which is rather too much Great Man for me, but the Ergoth Trilogy was good.
Oggie
I love the Ergoth Trilogy- very original and a nice break from some of the material that had been printed- after the Fifth Age book I really quit reading Dl for a while until the Ergoth books came out.
I love the Ergoth Trilogy- very original and a nice break from some of the material that had been printed- after the Fifth Age book I really quit reading Dl for a while until the Ergoth books came out.
What about The War of Souls trilogy or The Dark Disciple trilogy?
Hey REG? Check out some of the pre-history types. Not Barbarians, which is rather too much Great Man for me, but the Ergoth Trilogy was good.
I'll take that into consideration.