psionitrix revival, kreen invasion

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#1

lyric

May 31, 2005 2:15:13
sound interesting?? I just noticed how when the psionitrix was whole, it could suppress psionics for 3 hours a day, really making it difficult to use (jacking up the cost, making it harder to use a power, etc). And as a side effect, it made thri-kreen go near berserk. Hunting anything but clutchmates.. (which could include each other then..)

So, imagine as the only means for stopping the kreen invasion... the psionitrix's power.. which means, while an army or armies slow down the kreen invasion, adventurers must go find the remnants of the psionitrix, and put it back together again.. (and you know that forces, kreen and otherwise, will be out there to stop you.. some less than sane..) and once in one peice, (assuming you find out how that is to be done..) you must take it to the center of the kreen army.. and activate that power... causing the kreen to rampage against each other.. (and your army which you better withdraw or find some way to corner the kreen army in a ravine or mountain pass several miles wide) ;)

How would you help flesh out this idea??? (an ancient water temple to speak of reversing the water hammer's effects? some new history on the psionitrix's origin?)
#2

dracochapel

May 31, 2005 2:50:40
(and your army which you better withdraw or find some way to corner the kreen army in a ravine or mountain pass several miles wide)

like their invasion pass that got created by the earthquake?

Dont know how the psionatrix works so these ideas might be wrong. but maybe the psionatrix is only a part of a much more powerful version that once switched on can turn off psionics constantly (in a large radius). The PC's can quest for the other missing pieces, combine them and create a bubble that blocks the thri-kreen permanently from entry into the tablelands. game, set, match.

maybe the psionatrix was always meant to defeat the thri-kreen? why is it specially effective against them anyway? they arent any more psychic than the other races. maybe its a green age artifact that was originally used to hold back the thri kreens (specifically the zik-chil and their creations). there are psionatrix's scattered around the radius that is still controlled by the rebirth races. (ie the mapped out region of athas). unfortunately the psionatrix that the Order used was lost/broke/is ineffective (i dont have the adventure so i dont know) and that is the way the thri-kreen are able to enter the tablelands to finish off the halfling spawned monstrosities.
Normal thri-kreen are in the tablelands but cant leave, and the tohr-kreen are the scouts who discovered the lack of the psionatrix and we're 'deep cover agents' that were waiting for the opportunity, namely the creation of the way up.
#3

murkaf

May 31, 2005 6:44:04
Another question comes to mind:
How did the Psionatrix field affect the Kreen Empire?
It must have caused HAVOC!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine EVERY SINGLE citizen attacking on sight anyone to whom they are not related...

How do you think this was dealt with?

Maybe a contingency plan was dvised afterwards in case of a renewed field.
#4

Sysane

May 31, 2005 7:40:57
I like to believe that the psionatrix was the focal component of a larger device which was created by the rhulisti in order to keep the thri-kreen subservient to them during the early days of the Blue Age.
#5

kalthandrix

May 31, 2005 8:07:56
I like to believe that the psionatrix was the focal component of a larger device which was created by the rhulisti in order to keep the thri-kreen subservient to them during the early days of the Blue Age.

:D
#6

Sysane

May 31, 2005 8:25:49
:D

I take it that you approve of that theory?
#7

murkaf

May 31, 2005 8:44:59
I like to believe that the psionatrix was the focal component of a larger device which was created by the rhulisti in order to keep the thri-kreen subservient to them during the early days of the Blue Age.

Sooooo......

During the events in Dragon Crown, a one of the Order's Cerebral Masters activates this device without fully understanding what he was doing...

What happened:
case a) As the Kreen in the tablelands are not actively obeying or serving the Rhulisti, they go berserk as a punishment.
case b) The Kreen Control Device is not properly activated, they berserk.

The question is:
case a) Are the Imperial Kreen actively obeying or serving the Rhulisti???
case b) Is there another component within the Empire that negates or lessens the Psionatrix's effect?
#8

Sysane

May 31, 2005 8:58:44
Sooooo......

During the events in Dragon Crown, a one of the Order's Cerebral Masters activates this device without fully understanding what he was doing...

What happened:
case a) As the Kreen in the tablelands are not actively obeying or serving the Rhulisti, they go berserk as a punishment.
case b) The Kreen Control Device is not properly activated, they berserk.

The question is:
case a) Are the Imperial Kreen actively obeying or serving the Rhulisti???
case b) Is there another component within the Empire that negates or lessens the Psionatrix's effect?

It could be that zik-chil have altered the Imperial Kreen in such a way that they are no longer effected by the psionatrix as it currently functions.

A possibility exists in that the larger device (the Domatrix?) that the psionatrix was the focal component to could be altered to effect the present day Imperial Kreen.

This is something I've been working on for my current campaign. It ties into the return of the three rhulisti aboard the Messenger and the nature-bender who wishes to regain control of the Kreen in order to conquer and take back Athas.
#9

kalthandrix

May 31, 2005 18:34:22
I like to believe that the psionatrix was the focal component of a larger device which was created by the rhulisti in order to keep the thri-kreen subservient to them during the early days of the Blue Age.

I take it that you approve of that theory?

Sorry Sysane- posting error.

It is not that I disagree with the theory, it is just that I thought that the Psionatrix was created during the Green Age.

I thought that in the Dragon Crown adventure, it is stated that the psionatrix was crafted, not found- I think that they made have also mentioned having to keep it in a specific location due to it bring rather fragile (I have started reading the adventure, but I am currently on vacation painting my condo with my wife- as sick as it sounds, sometime I think I should have just gone to work ).

I like the idea of bring the big bad psionic killing rock back, but I do not think that they have super glue on Athas- but diamonds are made by putting coal under a lot of pressure- so maybe some super, super, super strong creature- The Obsidian Man of Urik- could be used in some kind of ritual to fuse that pieces back together. This is just a random thought, but I like the Obsidian Man and it would be cool to see him again- which everyone will soon be able to when I post him on a new thread- after my so called "vacation" is over and go back to "work" type it in my office
#10

squidfur-

May 31, 2005 19:54:27
It is stated within the Dragon Crown adv. (as well as Psionic Artifacts of Athas) that the psionitrix was created in the Green Age by a group of preservers known as the Wind Mages.
#11

Pennarin

May 31, 2005 20:11:39
I like to believe that the psionatrix was the focal component of a larger device which was created by the rhulisti in order to keep the thri-kreen subservient to them during the early days of the Blue Age.

A bunch of mages created it during the Time of Magic. They were called the Wind Mages and their fortress, IIRC, was the one currently occupied by the Order.

Ahhh, swuidfur- read the same thing I did.

Dragon's Crown even has the research notes of the researchers who sought to imagine and build such a device.
#12

jon_oracle_of_athas

Jun 01, 2005 1:09:01
Which means a similar devide could be built. So, the Tablelands aren't doomed after all.
#13

Pennarin

Jun 01, 2005 1:11:39
Sure, take an epic wizard or psion, have it research the creation process for psionatrixes, and you're on for some psionatrix action!
#14

Sysane

Jun 01, 2005 8:09:42
Whose to say that these wind mages' research didn't stem from knowledge gleaned from the Blue Age. Sure, the psionatrix of the Dragon's Crown adventure was crafted by wizards of the Green Age, but whose to say it was the first? There could have been others created during the Blue Age. It could be that the wind mages came across some ancient rhulisti manuscripts which detailed the psionatrix making process. There very well may have been even more powerful versions than the one created by the wind mages!

Its all on your willingness to look outside of the box and elaborate on things and I guess. Either way, its what I'm using for my campaign.
#15

jon_oracle_of_athas

Jun 01, 2005 8:33:40
Whose to say that these wind mages' research didn't stem from knowledge gleaned from the Blue Age. Sure, the psionatrix of the Dragon's Crown adventure was crafted by wizards of the Green Age, but whose to say it was the first? There could have been others created during the Blue Age. It could be that the wind mages came across some ancient rhulisti manuscripts which detailed the psionatrix making process. Maybe even more powerful than the one created by the wind mages!

Since psionics didn't exist before the Green Age, I find it unlikely that a Psionatrix blueprint or research leading to its creation was done in the Blue Age.
#16

Sysane

Jun 01, 2005 8:44:15
Since psionics didn't exist before the Green Age, I find it unlikely that a Psionatrix blueprint or research leading to its creation was done in the Blue Age.

Ah but there's the beauty of it. It could be that the psionatrix of the Blue Age served a different purpose like keeping the kreen in line as I pointed out in my theory (hence the effect it had on them in Dragon's Crown). The psionic dampening effect may have been a by-product of its creation. The rhulisti wouldn't have known this due to there being no psionics in the Blue Age.
#17

dracochapel

Jun 02, 2005 2:50:32
Ah but there's the beauty of it. It could be that the psionatrix of the Blue Age served a different purpose like keeping the kreen in line as I pointed out in my theory (hence the effect it had on them in Dragon's Crown). The psionic dampening effect may have been a by-product of its creation. The rhulisti wouldn't have known this due to there being no psionics in the Blue Age.

Good point. maybe the psionatrix was originally the activation device for the brown tide - that the halflings lost after everything went pear shaped. It has been used and the brown tide has partially awoken (causing the great earthquake maybe?). If the epic level heroes find and use the psionatrix to stop the thri-kreen empire they discover they have unleashed a vastly greater threat (whether its the black / buried underground / dessicated into the sea of silt / other idea).
BWWWHHHAAAAAA! Take that heroes!
#18

jon_oracle_of_athas

Jun 02, 2005 4:05:06
Creativity leads to madness. :P
#19

Sysane

Jun 02, 2005 8:27:17
Good point. maybe the psionatrix was originally the activation device for the brown tide - that the halflings lost after everything went pear shaped. It has been used and the brown tide has partially awoken (causing the great earthquake maybe?). If the epic level heroes find and use the psionatrix to stop the thri-kreen empire they discover they have unleashed a vastly greater threat (whether its the black / buried underground / dessicated into the sea of silt / other idea).
BWWWHHHAAAAAA! Take that heroes!

You could take that stance with the psionatrix as well.
#20

lyric

Jun 02, 2005 11:16:14
Whose to say that these wind mages' research didn't stem from knowledge gleaned from the Blue Age. Sure, the psionatrix of the Dragon's Crown adventure was crafted by wizards of the Green Age, but whose to say it was the first? There could have been others created during the Blue Age. It could be that the wind mages came across some ancient rhulisti manuscripts which detailed the psionatrix making process. There very well may have been even more powerful versions than the one created by the wind mages!

Its all on your willingness to look outside of the box and elaborate on things and I guess. Either way, its what I'm using for my campaign.

whose to say the wind mages didn't lie and falsify their finding of the psionitrix?? history is only history because we don't know any better, but a fib here and a lie there, does wonders for our resume...