I don't think he will probably recieve this, but I feel it is the right thing to do. I know I should have apologized earlier and that I never should have behaved such an antagonistic manner in the first place. I could have behaved in a much more mature manner and deeply regret my actions.
I don't expect this to gain anything from this posting, and I will refrain from posting on in this forum from here on out, but I thought I should say my peace first.
And, heck, I'd like to know. Perhaps Pringles is willing to tell us...
Hmm...perhaps he wrote some very bad things about you, the post got deleted, and he got banned.
I would like to seize the occasion to apologize to anyone who feels I owe them an apology.
As for the others: I regret nothing! You deserve whatever I did to you!
However, I will not refrain from posting.
*summons the Wiz-O*
Seriously, I can't think of anything that remotely felt like needing that sort apology from the Sage. I always kinda liked what he had to say.
/me shrugs
(Old Star trek III joke)
Yeah. That's right: take it.
Well, that said, I'd like to take this time to insult each and every one of you:
Yeah. That's right: take it.
Well, that said, I'd like to take this time to insult each and every one of you:
Yeah. That's right: take it.
How dare you!!!!!!!!!!
I am shocked and disturbed by you callus disregard for my feelings. After all of those nice things you said and all of the time we have spent together 
. I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING
Ooops, I lost something! :DI dont even know myself. What happened?
Perhaps he wasn't apologizing to you, Pringles. Maybe he was apologizing to some other brand of potato chips. :D
Perhaps he wasn't apologizing to you, Pringles. Maybe he was apologizing to some other brand of potato chips.
<-- this guy is just weirdYou earned my highest respect Cyrus. I always have this kind of joke in my head when I read Pringles' name, but never dared to speak it out aloud.
PS: I saw there hasn't been added anything to the German part of the MTL aside from what I did. Would it help you if I filled out the rest? Or do you not have any plans on German maps so far?
PS: I saw there hasn't been added anything to the German part of the MTL aside from what I did. Would it help you if I filled out the rest? Or do you not have any plans on German maps so far?
Heck yeah!
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Hunh?
I thought everyone was ignoring me. Right after I posted a "Translation" of one of Pringles' posts, it seemed like everyone started ignoring me, 
because I posted a dozen times after that and no one responded to any of my posts. I dicided to test my theory by posting a bunch of Air Cleric domains that I wrote up; something I thought for sure someone would respond to. No response to date. Anyway I thought I had severly offended, and was being ignored. Now I feel really stupid
. Either way the apology still stands, there was no need for me to be antagonistic.
. I guess I tricked myself. 
Just not in the Kalak:champion or not? thread.
And no talking about dwelves.
damn i said dwelves.
damn i did it again.
I don't think anybody has ignored anyone. A lot of threads die or derail.
What about Gulg!!! Everyone ignores Gulg!!! But one day, we shall rule all of Athas, you just wait and see!!!
:D
I thought everyone was ignoring me.
We were, but not because of anything you said: We just think you smell. Or I do. I think you smell. Sorry.
You smell kind of like a dwelf on a twelve night bender and, hoooweeeee! You DON'T want to smell like that.
I see an interesting topic rising out of this thread though. There are loads of topics that we've covered or argued about again, and again, and again and that keep popping up over and over and over. I tried to cover some of these in my "Inconsistency" threads a while ago, but there has to be more.
Any topics that you guys are just sick of and what the Search function reinstated for?
What about Gulg!!! Everyone ignores Gulg!!! But one day, we shall rule all of Athas, you just wait and see!!!
:D
Never!!!
Gulg and everything else will die as part of a huge invasion of Kreen, whom have been manipulated by the Dark Lord of the Dead Lands.
When every soul on the Tablelads is engaged in a struggle against the Kreen and are on the brink of destruction an army of 100,000 horrific undead beings will rise up from their obsidian wasteland and strike the city-states from behind.
Then your foolish nation and all others will be trapped batween two enemies and will be crushed. :evillaugh
Never!!!
Gulg and everything else will die as part of a huge invasion of Kreen, whom have been manipulated by the Dark Lord of the Dead Lands.
When every soul on the Tablelads is engaged in a struggle against the Kreen and are on the brink of destruction an army of 100,000 horrific undead beings will rise up from their obsidian wasteland and strike the city-states from behind.
Then your foolish nation and all others will be trapped batween two enemies and will be crushed. :evillaugh
Oh Yeah? Well my tembo's better than your tembo!
Any topics that you guys are just sick of and what the Search function reinstated for?
-Kalak Champion: yes/no
-Dragons/Avangions
-Epic Enchantments
-Paizo Dim Sun
-Athas.org are the suxors because their version does not have [insert random 2nd Edition rule mechanic]
-Kalak Champion: yes/no
-Dragons/Avangions
-Epic Enchantments
-Paizo Dim Sun
-Athas.org are the suxors because their version does not have [insert random 2nd Edition rule mechanic]
Yeah, that pretty well sums it up, Elonarc.
No more Dragon/Avangion threads unless it's REALLY something new and original (trust me, it won't be).
No more Kalak threads (he was a champ - accept it).
Epic Enchantments (yar).
Dim Sun (ug).
Athas.org are full of suck because... (they're working for free? Yeah, these topics get me riled up, even though I'm not an official member).
Absolutely agreed. It's one of those things that worked really well in 2e, but is relatively hard to convert to 3e. Since it was so long in coming, a lot of us just jumped on the horse and made our own conversions, leading to many different views of how it should be handled, whether it should be balanced, and so on. That's why my posts on the subject typically state: "Do what works in your campaign." Basically, that means that I've posted so many times on that subject that to say anything more would be needlessly redundant, or that the topic has so real solutions, only opinions, so it's hard to reconcile those.
I personally am of the belief that Dragons and Avangions were not done well in 2E. In fact, the rules seem hastily whipped together and incomplete at best. That's why I made my own conversion - because I personally really believe that what the 2E rules were, was horrible. Still do. Unfortunately, it looks like the official conversion is ending up like the 2E conversion in that regard, so most likely, once I get my site fired up again, I'll be doing my own conversion once more, independent of the one coming from the Epic Bureau.
once I get my site fired up again, I'll be doing my own conversion once more, independent of the one coming from the Epic Bureau.
Same here. In fact, when I get my own web site up (not the temp ones I've been parading around), there'll be a lot of info on there.
I personally am of the belief that Dragons and Avangions were not done well in 2E. In fact, the rules seem hastily whipped together and incomplete at best. That's why I made my own conversion - because I personally really believe that what the 2E rules were, was horrible. Still do. Unfortunately, it looks like the official conversion is ending up like the 2E conversion in that regard, so most likely, once I get my site fired up again, I'll be doing my own conversion once more, independent of the one coming from the Epic Bureau.
I have to agree with you on that one. That rules for them didn't make much sense. The Athas.org rules are much better.
(there should be an Avangion icon to go with the dragon one.)And both of your tembos will be consumed for spell energy by my Kreen Dragon, the all-powerful Terminus Vortexa!!!!Mighty is the Terminus, who grants me the boon of using his name to represent his interests! Gulg will survive, but the Oba will be reduced to a member of my harem,the Undead will be decimated, and Dwelfs will inherit Athas, alongside the Kreen!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Named after the Sci-fi roleplaying game Terminus V. :P
Personally, I found it interesting how this thread became slightly a "Web Ettiquette" topic.. where people showed they can be polite.. amazing huh..
Whats wrong with Dragons / Avangions?? I thought Advanced Beings were what made Athas unique?? Though the same "aspect" of dragons and avangions is always hit.. How many HP how much power, what abilities.. blah blah blah.. I wanna hear more about the unique personalities and traits of "new" dragons / avangions.. and I wanna hear more on them dang elemental clerics!! the AB ones! I wanna see an army of them swoop down and do something! Start a Jihad!! (how do you spell that??) I want to see druidic spirits of the land take a more active role.. say in some secret valley.. Why is it the carnivorous dragons are the only ones not cowering in fear and hiding??
I wanna hear more about unique new guys.. like.. the TERMINUS VORTEXA!!! (Hope I spelled the name right). ;)
Anywho.. that's my peace.. Glad you're still here Sage.
Yeah, if you post something Sage, and no one responds, it means they agree with your idea, bashing a concept brings more posts.. unless you ask a question, then they are simply bored with the concept and have nothing to contribute..
Personally, I found it interesting how this thread became slightly a "Web Ettiquette" topic.. where people showed they can be polite.. amazing huh..
Whats wrong with Dragons / Avangions?? I thought Advanced Beings were what made Athas unique?? Though the same "aspect" of dragons and avangions is always hit.. How many HP how much power, what abilities.. blah blah blah.. I wanna hear more about the unique personalities and traits of "new" dragons / avangions.. and I wanna hear more on them dang elemental clerics!! the AB ones! I wanna see an army of them swoop down and do something! Start a Jihad!! (how do you spell that??) I want to see druidic spirits of the land take a more active role.. say in some secret valley.. Why is it the carnivorous dragons are the only ones not cowering in fear and hiding??
I wanna hear more about unique new guys.. like.. the TERMINUS VORTEXA!!! (Hope I spelled the name right). ;)
Anywho.. that's my peace.. Glad you're still here Sage.
The carnivorous dragons are the ones not cowering in fear and hiding because they are the ones who WON. The preservers/druids/clerics lost. If an advanced cleric or druid, or avangion pops his head up then the SK's will stomp them back into oblivion. Any of them, like oronis, are probably in hiding somewhere outside the tablelands. The druids might be active in a secret valley - and as long as it remains secret thats fine. The SK's seem quite content to rule their cities and leave the preservers/druids/clerics/slaves mostly alone - they arent a threat.
Have you noticed that new dragons / avangions keep getting killed?? Thats because they are a threat. and the remaining SK's are probably going to be even MORE proactive now that there are less of them and they feel under threat from the changing face of athas.
You should accept Ruhl-Than Sage's apologies.
You can never get too much of those.
Personally, he never apologized to me.
Personally, I found it interesting how this thread became slightly a "Web Ettiquette" topic.. where people showed they can be polite.. amazing huh..
You must have a high impression of my politeness, then...
The Terminus Vortexa is a drastic solution to problems above and beyond the scope of Athas. He is the first and only Thri-Kreen Dragon, created by an entity of great power to be a kind of champion against certain very potent evils and a guardian of the planet Athas, which is going to be used as a kind of "Ark" in my game , to preserve life while the rest of the multiverse is rendered asunder and remade. While he defiles freely when necessary, he uses psionics to help undo the defiling damage he caises,he also has allies who are AB clerics and AB druids, who use potent psionic enchantments to undo his defiling damage after his battles, as well as working to restore Athas in general, so it will be a better vessel for life of all kinds (Planar, Prime and Elemental) while cataclysmic events take place outside the barrier that is the Grey. I have him set up as an Erudite/Wizard/Cerebremancer/MindMage/Dragon.
Plus it's named after the sci-fi roleplaying game Terminus V. :P
I, on the other hand, never apologize for anything.
You should though, for those pestering dwelves. :P
Plus it's named after the sci-fi roleplaying game Terminus V. :P
It's not funny anymore. For the last time, the name is Latin derived, and I've never even heard of this game you're mentioning until you mentioned it. You're really becoming irritating with this. Seriously, shut your mead-hole. You really are p****** me off.
Pringles:
You should accept Ruhl-Than Sage's apologies.
You can never get too much of those.
Personally, he never apologized to me.
What the hell do I have to agologize to your sorry butt for? Here have a cookie:
You should though, for those pestering dwelves.
So you admit they exist! HA!!
[edit] Oh, I want an apology, too. I don't know for what, exactly, but while you're handing out cookies...
It's not funny anymore. For the last time, the name is Latin derived, and I've never even heard of this game you're mentioning until you mentioned it. You're really becoming irritating with this. Seriously, shut your mead-hole. You really are p****** me off.
Mead-hole????
It's not funny anymore. For the last time, the name is Latin derived, and I've never even heard of this game you're mentioning until you mentioned it. You're really becoming irritating with this. Seriously, shut your mead-hole. You really are p****** me off.
Honestly, I'm getting kind of sick of hearing about your munch-tastic Thri-kreen dragon, so it only seems fair to me that he make fun of your name.
Cheers Jon
My idea is unique and original. I've had a campaign running for the better part of ten years, through 3 editions of D&D, and when you actually manage to make something work for that long, you need to come up with new stuff, rather than drawing on old material in a neverending loop. And these boards are for sharing ideas. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. I stopped bashing on other people's stuff long ago, and would think that type of courtesy would be universal on a public forum. I'm not sure if you're one of the stereotypical GMs, 40 years old, living in your mother's basement, and never had a girlfriend that wasn't digital, printed, or plastic, but my bet is that you are, if you actually waste the time and effort to insult me on a forum and encourage others to do so. I feel diminished by the fact that I have to waste time retaliating against the typewritten slander of someone like you. I told Sederqvist to stop busting on my name, because it's an ongoing irritation. I don't need some dweeb who probably camped out overnight to see the new Star Wars flick jumping on the bandwagon when one person begins to irritate me for absolutely no reason.
Mead-hole????
The hole he uses to drink mead.
mmm, sweet mead.
You can go to Baator as well, Rhul-Than sage. I withdraw my encouragement for you to resume posting. And if you want to make fun of names, check the spelling of yours.
My idea is unique and original. I've had a campaign running for the better part of ten years, through 3 editions of D&D, and when you actually manage to make something work for that long, you need to come up with new stuff, rather than drawing on old material in a neverending loop. And these boards are for sharing ideas. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. I stopped bashing on other people's stuff long ago, and would think that type of courtesy would be universal on a public forum. I'm not sure if you're one of the stereotypical GMs, 40 years old, living in your mother's basement, and never had a girlfriend that wasn't digital, printed, or plastic, but my bet is that you are, if you actually waste the time and effort to insult me on a forum and encourage others to do so. I feel diminished by the fact that I have to waste time retaliating against the typewritten slander of someone like you. I told Sederqvist to stop busting on my name, because it's an ongoing irritation. I don't need some dweeb who probably camped out overnight to see the new Star Wars flick jumping on the bandwagon when one person begins to irritate me for absolutely no reason.
Calm down fella. Its not John's fault there is a game with a similar name, its not yours either.
So what if he brings it up, he hasnt bagged your idea, so its not even about you.
You complain about ruhl bagging your idea and how he must be some loser if he wastes time insulting you. but you did much worse back at him!! That reflection in the monitor is you buddy.
You misspelt ruhls name by the way :D
But you probably have little chance of finding that in America.
If not could always go for guinness, that is if you like a drink that is almost solid
Evil Jon and the Bad Sage sound like a 70's rock band. Or nick cave and the bad seeds
Anyone else have one, let me know before Wednesday morning. That's when I'm moning, and the kegger is Saturday through Sunday, so I'll have a couple of days to track down all this beer and liquor!
Newcastle Brown Ale! You can drink it through your brown hole :D...
Hmmm... on second thoughts, there's probably a better way of putting that...
"La Fin du Monde", if you can get some.
Although it means The End of the World, it's only 9%. But it has a map of Québec province on the label...
Else, I like rum & coke. But replace the coke with some more rum: no sense wasting precious drink space with non-alcoholic beverages.
can buy peace!!! Don't change the subject!!! People on this board need apologies, not beer!
Now all of you apologize for wasting such valuable posting place!And don't think I'll apologize for this post, nooo sirs!!!
Because I did not make fun of his name earlier.
-sigh- OK, this is official: Hereby I formally apolgize to Pringles.
Because I did not make fun of his name earlier.
Have you ever noticed that your name, spelled backwards, is cranole?
Not that it's relevant or means something in any language that I understand, but it might have some funny meaning in some other language. Perhaps in nibenese. Or in pikey.
Y'all are just jealous because you don't have a cool name like me.
Isn't that a dwelf name?
Canadian Beer is good. Drink more beer.
"La Fin du Monde", if you can get some.
I'm pretty familiar with Canadian beer. We used to get it all the time in Buffalo. Lots of Labatts and Molson Canadian, but I'll definitely look fo r"La Fin du Monde". If I can't fing it, it'll be Molson XXX!
I'm pretty familiar with Canadian beer. We used to get it all the time in Buffalo. Lots of Labatts and Molson Canadian, but I'll definitely look fo r"La Fin du Monde". If I can't fing it, it'll be Molson XXX!
Molson XXX?! I didn't know we had that. Is it supposed to be Molson Triple X Vin Diesel beer, Molson 30% alcohol beer or Molson porn beer? Or is it that you think a single X is not enough? :P
No more Kalak threads (he was a champ - accept it).
No he wasn't! You accept it!
:P
Dim Sun (ug).
Yeah, I'm done ranting about that, just going to create my own D20 version, heh.
Athas.org are full of suck because... (they're working for free? Yeah, these topics get me riled up, even though I'm not an official member).
Yeah, but these are the best types, easy to make fun of and argue with, heh. Pretty cheap entertainment if you ask me.
If not could always go for guinness, that is if you like a drink that is almost solid
Guiness, drinks like a meal! And that's why we love it.
Oh and chill out Terminus, sheesh, It's just Jon being Jon, it was a joke, lighten up. Go find that chill pill in Buffalo will ya? :P
Have a safe trip man.
Oh and some Pineapple rum drinks. Fruity, but kick you in the head if you put enough rum in it, and what's the point if you don't do that?
:D
Guiness, drinks like a meal! And that's why we love it.
Oh and chill out Terminus, sheesh, It's just Jon being Jon, it was a joke, lighten up. Go find that chill pill in Buffalo will ya? :P
Have a safe trip man.
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Amen brother.
a sixpack of Becks
1 Guinness
1 Fosters
2 Black & Tan
1 La Fin du Monde
1 Molson X
2 or so Pineapple Rum drinks
That's 14 so far. In addition to however many of the 150+ people at the party insist I drink one with them for old time's sake (haven't been home in 2 years, except for a funeral)
Anything else? I need to know by midnight or so, cause I'm leaving tomorrow and I'm going to phone over my list to the person in charge of procuring liquor for the party tonight.I'm not looking forward to Sunday.I'll probably need a lobotomy just to relieve the pressure in my skull!
Y'all are just jealous because you don't have a cool name like me.
Mine's kinda cool............Anyhoo, what am I drinking for you at my Welcome Home kegger, Dawnstealer? Nothing dwelfish, I hope!
And I gladly insult the entire community again!
And don't forget the L'Eau Bénite (Holy Water)...
Bigger images of the beers above:
This started with someone that made an apology,
which one said not to be true,
peoples wondered what it might be,
although nothing was found cause of absent wiz_o,
since nobody was found guilty of anything,
we needed a guilt,
so peoples started insuilt each other for no reason,
because they needed to find a reason to apologize to each other... hum...
Well resumed I think.
:surrender 
Ha ha! You're weird!
But you got to love him :D
In Québec there's also (from left to right on the pic below) the Maudite (Damned), La Fin du Monde, Trois-Pistoles (name of a town), and the Don de Dieu (gift of God).
Sounds like I need to move to Québec.
Sounds like I need to move to Québec.
I don't know if being the Seventh Champion could help you get the citizenship...
But you have to answer questions the likes of:
"Have you ever commited war crimes or crimes against humanity?"
And swear allegiance to the Queen of England and all her descendants.
Now, as I understand it, our southern neighbors keep guns to prevent the King of England to enter their homes and start shoving them around...
I don't know if being the Seventh Champion could help you get the citizenship...
Aww come on, I'll help you guys become your own country again. :D
But you have to answer questions the likes of:
"Have you ever commited war crimes or crimes against humanity?"
Nope, and wouldn't dream of it.
And swear allegiance to the Queen of England and all her descendants.
Now, as I understand it, our southern neighbors keep guns to prevent the King of England to enter their homes and start shoving them around...
Sorry, can't do it, I refuse to swear allegiance to any political leader, whether they have real power or not.
Ok, to keep this on the focus of DS, maybe I will swear allegiance to Dregoth, being a Dray seems cool.
As long as the question isn't "Do you love freedom? Who did you vote for to determine the answer..."
Yes, and not the B man.
Though I will vote for Dregoth since he's cool and all.
:D
Sweet, sweet Dregoth: he'll never lie to me...
No he would never lie :D
I think that for the Dregoth to truly embody all that is evil we need to make one change.....He would need to be a she
Everyone knows that women are the source of all evil :P Just ask my wife and daughter.
Where is 2e when you need one with the girdle of masculinity/ femininity?
So you admit they exist! HA!!
[edit] Oh, I want an apology, too. I don't know for what, exactly, but while you're handing out cookies...
When you figure it out tell me. Until then, here's a cookie:
, :D I took a bite for tax.You can go to Baator as well, Rhul-Than sage. I withdraw my encouragement for you to resume posting. And if you want to make fun of names, check the spelling of yours.
My idea is unique and original. I've had a campaign running for the better part of ten years, through 3 editions of D&D, and when you actually manage to make something work for that long, you need to come up with new stuff, rather than drawing on old material in a neverending loop. And these boards are for sharing ideas. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. I stopped bashing on other people's stuff long ago, and would think that type of courtesy would be universal on a public forum. I'm not sure if you're one of the stereotypical GMs, 40 years old, living in your mother's basement, and never had a girlfriend that wasn't digital, printed, or plastic, but my bet is that you are, if you actually waste the time and effort to insult me on a forum and encourage others to do so. I feel diminished by the fact that I have to waste time retaliating against the typewritten slander of someone like you. I told Sederqvist to stop busting on my name, because it's an ongoing irritation. I don't need some dweeb who probably camped out overnight to see the new Star Wars flick jumping on the bandwagon when one person begins to irritate me for absolutely no reason.
Look I admited that my name was spelled wrong, before anyone even pointed it out to me. I can't change that now.
I grant that your consept is unique and original.
For your information, I am 23 and married, do not attend any gaming conventions or wait in line to see geeky movies, though I do watch them ocassionally.
I wasn't attempting to slander you, nor do I find your name to be humorous personally, but I don't understand why it irritates you so much that Jon does.
Lastly, your thri-kreen dragon is munch-tastic :D , don't try to deny it. I stand by that statment, but fail to see how it could be construed as a personal attack.
Actually, he mispelled it. I hate having wasted time on insulting Sage, but I was pretty irritated. I should know better, but do not regret my statements. I just get really bitter when people talk smack. Your perspective is respected by me, DracoChapel, and I will refrain from further retaliatory insults. It's a waste of time and a discredit to myself, and to the others who need not read such things. Anyhow, I'm out of time. Time to continue packing for the move back home. So much to do, and only a few days until the welcome home kegger. I'll drink a beer for all the good people on the board. And some mead for sederqvist. :D Heck, tell me what your favorite beverage is, everyone, and I'll drink one in your honor! Gotta go. Buffalo, NY awaits my return.
I hold no grudge. Enjoy your beer.
When you figure it out tell me.
Ummmm...mermaids insult me. My mother was killed by a mermaid...
Ummmm...mermaids insult me. My mother was killed by a mermaid...
:P I can't be responsible for the actions of all mermaids, or trees for that matter (my former avatar). Plus, :D I don't believe that you have a mother
A tree bit my sister, once.
The wrath of Monty Python shall be upon you soon...
;)