Seems that my group friendly neighbourhood dark knights is about to get into a little trouble with lord Ariakan. Now, even if this would unbalance the whole game world, my gamers want revenge for Ariakan's betrayal to them:
He left them alone against an entire army of very nasty Armach-nesti and let them be imrisoned. However, the party (of course!) managed to escape the dungeon and now they're up for revenge... (I have Zeboim doing an Ariakan clone in no time...)
So, now they're up to the Fisheries to clean their accounts with the lord of the knighthood...
Now, when they arrive, I estimate them being about lvl 10 each (Total number of party members: 8, plus Tekolo, a draconian).
In short, and without more preliminaries ;) , my question is, are there some 3e stats for Ariakan available in a published product or do I have to made them up myself? Or can anyone recommend me a good mix of classes to portray Ariakan according to the gaming rules?
Thanks in advance,
Rafael
There aren't any published stats for him yet (I don't even know if he ever did have published stats) but that should do it for you.
Cheers,
Cam
That combination gives exactly the picture ordinary readers (such as my players
) might have after reading might have of Ariakan.Yep, no skill or talent missed in this combination!
:evillaugh Will be a tough thing to confront him...
LE male human fighter 5/knight of the Lily 10/legendary tactician 5.
There aren't any published stats for him yet (I don't even know if he ever did have published stats) but that should do it for you.
Apparantly he had published stats in the DL 15th anniversary compilation of modules. Here you go.
Ariakan, Son of Ariakas (human male Fighter 4)
AC2 (plate mail), MV 12, hp 38, THACO 15 (2-hand broadsword +2), #Attack 1 (2-hand broadsword +2), dmg 2d4+2, SZ M (5'11"), ML 19 (fearless), str 16 dex 12 con 15 int 14 wis 16 cha 17, AL LE
(Note that this was at the time the KoS captured him.)
However, very interesting regarding to that *clone* - concept. Thank you too! :D
Apparantly he had published stats in the DL 15th anniversary compilation of modules. Here you go.
Well, yeah, I wasn't counting his teenage weenie stats, man.
Cheers,
Cam
Well, yeah, I wasn't counting his teenage weenie stats, man.
:heehee
Hey, they're published Ariakan stats. ;) All one has to do is take the ability scores, then apply them to the class levels you have above.
And then the world will tremble... :evillaugh
Hey, they're published Ariakan stats. ;) All one has to do is take the ability scores, then apply them to the class levels you have above.
As a 20th level character, he'd also gain another 4 points of ability score advancement. Just off the top of my head, I'd dump those into Charisma and Constitution, thusly:
Str 16 Dex 12 Con 16 Int 14 Wis 16 Cha 20
Look how well-rounded he is. Of course, no Whirlwind Attack or Dodge feats for our boy Ariakan.
Cheers,
Cam
--and yes, I feel epic levels of knight of the lily are fully approrpiate NB
Actually, I'd make Ariakan a slightly epic character, around ECL 22 or 23. He conquered Ansalon, for crying out loud! I'd make him fighter 5/knight of the lily 14/legendary tactician 4. He is the Knighthood of Takhisis, and he embodies everything they stand for: Honorable evil, overwhelming power, and military genius.
And he can't do this as a 20th level character?
Part of my aim with Price of Courage, which will be the highest-level Dragonlance adventure to date, is to show just how potent and "epic" an adventure tailored for 15th-20th level characters can be. I'm very much in favor of keeping most if not all Dragonlance NPCs within core D&D levels, if for no other reason than to prove that point.
Cheers,
Cam
Actually, I'd make Ariakan a slightly epic character, around ECL 22 or 23. He conquered Ansalon, for crying out loud! I'd make him fighter 5/knight of the lily 14/legendary tactician 4. He is the Knighthood of Takhisis, and he embodies everything they stand for: Honorable evil, overwhelming power, and military genius.
--and yes, I feel epic levels of knight of the lily are fully approrpiate NB
Well, um, actually his Army of Dark Knights conquered Ansalon, along with the deal of the gods to LET them conquer Ansalon...
I would think he would have the half-celestial (no not half-infernal) template added to whatever 'normal' stats he possesses.
Of course it may be handled differently in the published game books, but it would seem odd to me if his divine parentage didn't give him some kind of benefit.
Ariakan's mother is the goddess Zeboim.
I would think he would have the half-celestial (no not half-infernal) template added to whatever 'normal' stats he possesses.
Of course it may be handled differently in the published game books, but it would seem odd to me if his divine parentage didn't give him some kind of benefit.
Interesting. But wasn't Zeboim a demi-goddess in the beginning? - Or am I confusing her with Sagarassi?
Ariakan's mother is the goddess Zeboim.
I would think he would have the half-celestial (no not half-infernal) template added to whatever 'normal' stats he possesses.
Of course it may be handled differently in the published game books, but it would seem odd to me if his divine parentage didn't give him some kind of benefit.
Not all children of the gods have god-like abilities.
Not all children of the gods have god-like abilities.
Or could we give/create some CHILD OF GOD DRAGONLANCE -template for him? Little work for someone. Maybe to Nexus rules...
Nothing too amazing or powerful. Gives him some +1 or +2 ECL rating and little bonuses to STR, CON, WIS, CHA (not necesserily all of them)? And so that with these bonuses the stats given above (Str 16 Dex 12 Con 16 Int 14 Wis 16 Cha 20) still apply.
Or could we give/create some CHILD OF GOD DRAGONLANCE -template for him? Little work for someone. Maybe to Nexus rules...
Nothing too amazing or powerful. Gives him some +1 or +2 ECL rating and little bonuses to STR, CON, WIS, CHA (not necesserily all of them)? And so that with these bonuses the stats given above (Str 16 Dex 12 Con 16 Int 14 Wis 16 Cha 20) still apply.
I'd be up for having such a template on the Nexus, so feel free to work it up and submit it.
Or could we give/create some CHILD OF GOD DRAGONLANCE -template for him? Little work for someone. Maybe to Nexus rules...
Ariakan (and several other so-called children of the gods) get covered in the upcoming Holy Orders of the Stars sourcebook. The book talks about what these beings are, what they do, provides a few examples and so forth, and suggestions for using them in your campaign. Plus a couple of surprises.
Cheers,
Cam
It would really help to jumpstart the Knights of Neraka I think.
BTW when I said half-celestial above, I didn't mean that he would get the spell-like abilities that a half-celestial would get opposed to a half-infernal. Simply that my picture of Ariakan would be ... well an extremely beautiful human. Eagle's wings, not bat wings and horns for instance. (not that I picture him with wings).
Glad the new book is going to address this issue in a way more consistent with the setting than the template in the monster manual.
Does this mean that he is definitely going to be returned to Krynn? Like others I was thinking that after Amber and Ashes.
You'll have to read the remainder of the Dark Disciple trilogy to find out!
It would really help to jumpstart the Knights of Neraka I think.
And what then? Another war where Ariakan tries to conquer Ansalon?
Don't get me wrong, I love Ariakan, but I'm not sure that having him back is a good thing for the ongoing story of Dragonlance. Been there, done that.
From what I recall Ariakan never demonstrated any special abilities for being the son of Zebiom. Why would he now?
There isn't that much stories about him actually. But even he had some unnatural powers, it doesn't mean they are huge powers like: Breath Lighting or Fly or Lungs...
Maybe he has just little more bonuses to stats or swim, nightvision...etc. Something minor.
Either way. I'm waiting very much Holy Orders of the Stars sourcebook...
I hope that it will be out soon. SOS is late and I hope that the tardiness of one product does not prolong the wait for another. I wonder if Ariakan will be stated in this book?
I'd answer, but you have that stuck-record thing going, and it's just not an inspiration for a good discussion.
Cheers,
Cam
You have three types of bloodlines minor, intermediate, and major (1,2, or 3 levels in the bloodline determine whether you have minor, inter, or major)
Abilities gained are as follows:
With a minor bloodline you gain something every four character levels (regardless of what class they are) (Wiz2\Ftr2 = 4 levels)
With a intermediate you gain something every other level
With a major you gain something every level
Some of the bloodlines are Celestial, Demon, Devil, Doppelganger, All color Dragons, The four basic Elementals, Fey, Genie, Giant, Lycanthrope, etc...
Now not all the bloodlines have Minor, Intermediate, and Major Bloodlines, some only have minor & intermediate but even those are still cool.
If these don't suit you, you can make up your own bloodline and it shows you how to do that. I like it better that templates.
Hey crown, have you checked out the Bloodline Levels in Unearthed Arcana? They could provide some very interesting alternatives to a completly new template. The best part you need only take 1-3 level in a bloodline to gain abilities at different levels.
Interesting idea actually! This would work nicely. I have read the book little and adapted few rules there. But don't own it, so bloodline consept isn't that familar.
I wasn't asking for paladins (CC) but for Paladin (Fizban)!
:D
:embarrass Oops, sorry had to put things more clearly.
I wasn't asking for paladins (CC) but for Paladin (Fizban)!
That's why we put an E on the end of his name! Paladine gets equal coverage (moreso, in fact) as the other gods, along with Takhisis, despite the fact that in the Age of Mortals they're not available as patron deities.
Cheers,
Cam
Sorry again, I still use the translation of his name I know from the German novel translations!
But very good to hear that he and Takhi will be covered, too!
My WotL group will rejoice!
;)
Thank you for the info!