Can anyone testify as to the completeness of that page? I know it's been a while since it was updated, and I don't know if the OP had access to all the Dungeon mags, or if those were the only Mystara related ones in his possession at the time.
Anyway, as they come in, I'll post what thoughts on them that I have, maybe add to David Keyser's review list a bit.
:-) Jesper
Can anyone testify as to the completeness of that page? I know it's been a while since it was updated, and I don't know if the OP had access to all the Dungeon mags, or if those were the only Mystara related ones in his possession at the time.
A few months back I was looking at some ads in Dragon about Dungeon Back issues and remember seeing Mystara show up several times for Dungeon issues I'd never known to look for in the past. I suspect there may be a few issues not on David Keyser's list worth looking into, especially in the older issues of Dungeon.
Håvard
A few months back I was looking at some ads in Dragon about Dungeon Back issues and remember seeing Mystara show up several times for Dungeon issues I'd never known to look for in the past. I suspect there may be a few issues not on David Keyser's list worth looking into, especially in the older issues of Dungeon.
Håvard
What?! I admit to being a fallible human being, but I was quite thorough in making my list of Dungeon Magazine adventures which used Classic D&D or the Mystara setting. The link in the first post is explicit Mystara adventures, but there are a few more adventures which are listed in my overall index that can be found here:
http://pandius.com/prodlist.html#DunRef
I think I see the problem, the link
http://pandius.com/dungeon.html
was made before issue #62 came out, and I didn't include a few adventures where Mystara was not an explicit setting local for the adventure. At some point, someone added Dungeon #114, which makes it look more up to date.
The second link
http://pandius.com/prodlist.html#DunRef
is the complete list, but has not been updated with 3E adventures that can be set in Mystara, like the Isle of Dread. If someone does find a Dungeon adventure from an old issue(pre-100), than I do want to know about it, as it is possible(but unlikely) that I missed something somewhere.
I have been promising to update my overall index, and I will get it done in the next couple of weeks. For real this time.
I will add in Isle of Dread, the Dragon mags which had Mystara material, the two Blackmoor(Greyhawk) 3E adventures in Dungeon, and also a Dungeon adventure which I though for sure was set in Savage Coast, until the author set me straight. It still works perfect in the Savage Coast though.
I also need a seperate 3E Blackmoor page.
Edit: Of course you may not want to be quite so completist as I am... I keep track of everything related to OD&D, including letters, articles, previews, reviews - even the adverts. ;)
David, do you have the info for old Dragon magazines that is missing from the list at the Vaults? I've been looking through issues 80-110 lately in the PDF library, and found tons of stuff that should probably be added to that list. I've been keeping notes in the filenames of my PDFs, although I'm planning on switching over to putting them in a spreadsheet when I get back to it.
Edit: Of course you may not want to be quite so completist as I am... I keep track of everything related to OD&D, including letters, articles, previews, reviews - even the adverts. ;)
I also have the Dragon CD collection, so I can take a look at those issues again. I know my index is sparse in that area, but there wasn't a lot of support for OD&D/Classic D&D back then. My goal for the index was to include all the gaming material itself, so articles are important. Previews and reviews I did not include since having the game product itself would give you everything that a preview or review would give you.
Letters, I have to admit, I did not think about, but a letter could include comments useful to such a product such as errata, and I did not look carefully over the letters in earlier issues as I did later with Bruce Heard's ongoing series. Can you point me to any you have in mind in particular?
Advertisements I did not try and chase down, that would be a huge task if you want to expand your search beyond Dragon to all other gaming magazines and comic books where TSR advertised its products.
Getting back to articles, many of those in the 80-110 range are certainly applicable to OD&D and Mystara(1E AD&D was compatible), so I set a pretty restrictive standard to adding it to my index, but again, if you have specific articles in mind, I could take a look.
Letters, I have to admit, I did not think about, but a letter could include comments useful to such a product such as errata, and I did not look carefully over the letters in earlier issues as I did later with Bruce Heard's ongoing series. Can you point me to any you have in mind in particular?
I don't know for sure what issue it is in, but I recall there being a Sage Advice especially for OD&D questions. I could check my Dragons to try and find out which issue it is in.
BTW, I thought I remembered you being a Board member, David, but I wasn't certain. Good to know that that list is pretty complete (it's what I've been basing my ebay auctions on, after all). Thanks for helping provide me with the info to be as thorough as possible with my Mystara collection (like Thorf, I am a major completist about it.)
was made before issue #62 came out, and I didn't include a few adventures where Mystara was not an explicit setting local for the adventure. At some point, someone added Dungeon #114, which makes it look more up to date.
yep that's my fault, I haven't been too thorough with updating those lists
thanks for claring that up!
I will add in Isle of Dread, the Dragon mags which had Mystara material, the two Blackmoor(Greyhawk) 3E adventures in Dungeon, and also a Dungeon adventure which I though for sure was set in Savage Coast, until the author set me straight. It still works perfect in the Savage Coast though.
I also need a seperate 3E Blackmoor page.
Feel free to use this page http://www.geocities.com/havardfaa/product_list.html as a a basis for such a page, or section of the prod list.
What is missing from my compilation is:
* The Dungeon adventures you mention
* Blackmoor Rampant Newsletter
* Blackmoor MMRPG (Living Campaign) Adventures
Edit: I just updated the file adding the missing items with the exception of the Dungeon Adventures for Blackmoor.
Håvard
Issue #41 takes place in the town of Edgewater, in Thunder Rift. Not much background, but it does provide a more detailed map of the area around Edgewater (1 inch = 1 mile), and mentions a group of monks- the Kohlorian Brotherhood, dedicated to the preservation of knowledge, who built a library in the town (the town was built around the library, actually). It also introduces "vampire moss", which is a danger in the swamp near the town.
Started receiving some of my Dungeon magazines yesterday. One in particular should be of interest to you, Havard.
Issue #41 takes place in the town of Edgewater, in Thunder Rift. Not much background, but it does provide a more detailed map of the area around Edgewater (1 inch = 1 mile), and mentions a group of monks- the Kohlorian Brotherhood, dedicated to the preservation of knowledge, who built a library in the town (the town was built around the library, actually). It also introduces "vampire moss", which is a danger in the swamp near the town.
That is very interesting!
If possible I will try to get my hands on this one. Thanks for providing the details too.
Where is Edgewater btw?
Håvard
I guess I was looking at an older thread for the Dungeon adventures then,
thanks for claring that up!
You are welcome.
Feel free to use this page http://www.geocities.com/havardfaa/product_list.html as a a basis for such a page, or section of the prod list.
What is missing from my compilation is:
* The Dungeon adventures you mention
* Blackmoor Rampant Newsletter
* Blackmoor MMRPG (Living Campaign) Adventures
Edit: I just updated the file adding the missing items with the exception of the Dungeon Adventures for Blackmoor.
Håvard
Nicely done and organized. I need to add a minis section to the Mystara one as well, along with Dragon Magazine Sage advice.
Since you have it set up so well, I assume you will just keep the 3E Blackmoor index going and add the last bits I have.
I recommend adding a Greyhawk Blackmoor section, to distinguish from ZeitGeist and TSR. Under it, there are:
Living Greyhawk Gazeteer (small entry on Blackmoor nation)
Living Greyhawk Journal #4 (MM entry for Qullan, servants of the EGG)
Dungeon Magazine #115 Raiders of the Black Ice D&D 3.5E adventure for level 3(1-5)
Dungeon Magazine #126 The Clockwork Fortress adventure for level 8 (6-12)
both Dungeon adventures were written by Wolfgang Bauer, and the second is a sequel to the first.
You could also add the World of Greyhawk 1983 box set as well, which had a small entry on Blackmoor in there, basically similar to the LGG book.
Nicely done and organized. I need to add a minis section to the Mystara one as well, along with Dragon Magazine Sage advice.
Since you have it set up so well, I assume you will just keep the 3E Blackmoor index going and add the last bits I have.
I recommend adding a Greyhawk Blackmoor section, to distinguish from ZeitGeist and TSR. Under it, there are:
Living Greyhawk Gazeteer (small entry on Blackmoor nation)
Living Greyhawk Journal #4 (MM entry for Qullan, servants of the EGG)
Dungeon Magazine #115 Raiders of the Black Ice D&D 3.5E adventure for level 3(1-5)
Dungeon Magazine #126 The Clockwork Fortress adventure for level 8 (6-12)
both Dungeon adventures were written by Wolfgang Bauer, and the second is a sequel to the first.
You could also add the World of Greyhawk 1983 box set as well, which had a small entry on Blackmoor in there, basically similar to the LGG book.
Thanks for your kind comments, information and suggestions Dave!
I will indeed add a Greyhawk Blackmoor section as you suggest, and I will try to keep this list updated as new Blackmoor material is published.
A minis section for the Mystara product list would be useful, I agree. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
Håvard
I don't know for sure what issue it is in, but I recall there being a Sage Advice especially for OD&D questions. I could check my Dragons to try and find out which issue it is in.
BTW, I thought I remembered you being a Board member, David, but I wasn't certain. Good to know that that list is pretty complete (it's what I've been basing my ebay auctions on, after all). Thanks for helping provide me with the info to be as thorough as possible with my Mystara collection (like Thorf, I am a major completist about it.)
Your welcome. I was fortunate to be a completist even back in the 1980's when it came to collecting Mystara product. To the point where I would leaf through Dungeon and Dragon magazine every time a new issue showed up at the game store to see if there was anything new for the Known World.
So I went through the Dragon CD archive, CD 2 and CD 3, and here are the Sage advice which apply to BECMI D&D, that I will be adding to my index, which is moving along nicely. I still need to check issues #55-80.
Dragon Magazine
119 Sage Advice for Masters and Immortals box sets
120 Sage Advice for Companion box set
122 Sage Advice for Companion box set
123 Sage Advice for Expert and Masters box sets
124 Sage Advice for Expert box set
127 Sage Advice for Battlesystem
129 Sage Advice for Basic and Expert box sets
132 Sage Advice for Battlesystem
134 Sage Advice for BECMI D&D
144 Sage Advice for BECMI D&D
No need to worry about archiving this, I will release this again with the whole index.
By the way, how many people played Immortals rules where no mortal magic can affect Immortals? One Sage Advice was an errata which explained that page 16 of the Immortals box set was wrong in saying that no magic affects Immortals. The correct rule is on page 6, where mortals magic cannot affect Immortals minds, but that it can affect an Immortals corporeal bodies. So charm person and feeblemind would not work, but fireball and polymorph might if it got through magic resistance and saving throws.